Looking for help - Update

[helsonwheels]

Someone new to raw I immediately think foodborne illness. I’m not judging in any way -just need to learn the basics. Can any meat be served raw? @1Chumly I saw there’s a referral bonus on the k9 site if you want to refer me? Let me know what’s needed if you do. It looked like $50 credit if I read it right.

I haven’t tried fish because I wasn’t sure what he could have. The test said, “White-Colored Fish reactivity includes sardines, herring and tuna (and their oils)”. I wasn’t sure what fish was left. I could only think of salmon and that was on the avoid list. I will research that to expand his protein.

It’s so easy to go down rabbit holes with these bulldogs and lose sight of the obvious. I appreciate your time!

I’m in the food industry n can tell you “foodborne illness” are mostly from vegetables. Yes of course does happen with meat which that happens as cross-contamination by human. Example using same counter, cutting board with meat with fruits/vegetables, food poisoning etc……I just had a recall from Costco as they know I bought Taylor kit salad. Was the cheese inside, wasn’t right. Last time I ever buy them kits. Anyhoo……

We have 7dogs in my family n all on a raw diet. Been over 7yrs. No issues. I simply make sure the raw is taken out from the freezer n fed next day. You also can feed semi-frozen to feel safer.

BTW, these health issues isn’t just in bulldogs. Lots of other breeds have the same problem.

 

[helsonwheels]

As most older members (not age wise) of EBN knows, I do a lot of essential oil mixes n suggestions. For skin issues n rashes, best oils would be lavender, frankincense, sandalwood. Always use a carrier oil like fractionated coconut oil or castor oil. In Cooper‘s case…….

2oz of FCO
8drops of of each: lavender, frankincense, sandalwood.
4drops of Tea Tree
mix vigorously, add to your hands n simply massage in.

If you’re not sure on oils plz ask me n don’t replace oils for others. Not all oils are for pets. Why I rather you ask before doing anything. Been doing this for decades. You also can use these oils in a diffuser ionizer without the FCO. Needs to say Ionizer as it basically vibrates faster to breakdown oils in water. We all know oil n water don’t mix.

BUT BUT BUT………First, see what the dermatologist has to say. Give us an update.

 

[Cbrugs]

Someone new to raw I immediately think foodborne illness. I’m not judging in any way -just need to learn the basics. Can any meat be served raw? @Cbrugs I saw there’s a referral bonus on the k9 site if you want to refer me? Let me know what’s needed if you do. It looked like $50 credit if I read it right.

I haven’t tried fish because I wasn’t sure what he could have. The test said, “White-Colored Fish reactivity includes sardines, herring and tuna (and their oils)”. I wasn’t sure what fish was left. I could only think of salmon and that was on the avoid list. I will research that to expand his protein.

It’s so easy to go down rabbit holes with these bulldogs and lose sight of the obvious. I appreciate your time!

I can most certainly try the referral. Not sure what info I would need…maybe your name and email address? Let me take a look. You can PM that to me and I can give it a try.

 

[Sunflower13]

I’m in the food industry n can tell you “foodborne illness” are mostly from vegetables. Yes of course does happen with meat which that happens as cross-contamination by human. Example using same counter, cutting board with meat with fruits/vegetables, food poisoning etc……I just had a recall from Costco as they know I bought Taylor kit salad. Was the cheese inside, wasn’t right. Last time I ever buy them kits. Anyhoo……

We have 7dogs in my family n all on a raw diet. Been over 7yrs. No issues. I simply make sure the raw is taken out from the freezer n fed next day. You also can feed semi-frozen to feel safer.

BTW, these health issues isn’t just in bulldogs. Lots of other breeds have the same problem.

Lol now that you mention it, it is always spinach or romaine! Noted! Can I pull any meat out of the freezer and serve?

I served in the Navy many years ago and we’d get patients needing meds after eating sushi overseas. I have no idea if I’m comparing apples to apples - it’s just etched in my brain.

 

[Cbrugs]

Okay...I think you (and anyone else that wants to try this food) would just use this link - https://rawfedk9.com/?aaa_ref_id=MTYxODk2NQ

And no, you can't just pull out any meat from the freezer. Dogs need the meat plus bone and organ to make it a complete meal...usually 80/10/10 of each. The Raw Fed K9 food is already balanced. It has no veggies in it and is considered prey model. Some dogs do need the veggies in their diet and my Louie is one of them so he gets balanced frozen premades from a variety of different brands. Every dog is different and it's easy to tell how they are doing by their stool.

Feeding dogs raw is like you cooking yourself dinner. You clean the bowls after they eat, wipe up the counters, wash your hands, etc. I have never had any issues with feeding raw in all my years and I don't even eat meat!

 

[Sunflower13]

Okay...I think you (and anyone else that wants to try this food) would just use this link - https://rawfedk9.com/?aaa_ref_id=MTYxODk2NQ

And no, you can't just pull out any meat from the freezer. Dogs need the meat plus bone and organ to make it a complete meal...usually 80/10/10 of each. The Raw Fed K9 food is already balanced. It has no veggies in it and is considered prey model. Some dogs do need the veggies in their diet and my Louie is one of them so he gets balanced frozen premades from a variety of different brands. Every dog is different and it's easy to tell how they are doing by their stool.

Feeding dogs raw is like you cooking yourself dinner. You clean the bowls after they eat, wipe up the counters, wash your hands, etc. I have never had any issues with feeding raw in all my years and I don't even eat meat!

Good info! Thanks for the link!

 

[2BullyMama]

Chumly is so cute! I have not done a skin allergy test but that’s a great idea. He doesn’t have bedding of his own. I have blankets on the couch and on my bed. He likes to be close. But that’s a good thought. Maybe my detergent is bothersome. Thank you!!

it can also be candles, air fresheners.. anything you use to clean with... all that stuff can cause issues for pets.

 

[Sunflower13]

As most older members (not age wise) of EBN knows, I do a lot of essential oil mixes n suggestions. For skin issues n rashes, best oils would be lavender, frankincense, sandalwood. Always use a carrier oil like fractionated coconut oil or castor oil. In Cooper‘s case…….

2oz of FCO
8drops of of each: lavender, frankincense, sandalwood.
4drops of Tea Tree
mix vigorously, add to your hands n simply massage in.

If you’re not sure on oils plz ask me n don’t replace oils for others. Not all oils are for pets. Why I rather you ask before doing anything. Been doing this for decades. You also can use these oils in a diffuser ionizer without the FCO. Needs to say Ionizer as it basically vibrates faster to breakdown oils in water. We all know oil n water don’t mix.

BUT BUT BUT………First, see what the dermatologist has to say. Give us an update.

This is so nice - thank you!!

 

[helsonwheels]

Lol now that you mention it, it is always spinach or romaine! Noted! Can I pull any meat out of the freezer and serve?

I served in the Navy many years ago and we’d get patients needing meds after eating sushi overseas. I have no idea if I’m comparing apples to apples - it’s just etched in my brain.

Yes you can pull it out from the freezer. My dogs use to eat it frozen but I changed that to semi frozen. Or like mention, thaw it in the fridge overnight is ok.

 

[Sunflower13]

I can most certainly try the referral. Not sure what info I would need…maybe your name and email address? Let me take a look. You can PM that to me and I can give it a try.

I ordered!

 

[Sunflower13]

I found a veterinary dermatologist and will def look into!! I can’t wait to have that AHA! moment when I find the cause and can stop treating the symptoms! I’m feeling hopeful!

I wanted to send a quick update after following your suggestions. 1. The NuStock worked wonders on the hotspot and between toes. Holy moly! 2. I have washed all of his blankets in water only. 3. I researched the raw diet and ordered the starter batch of 80/10/10 beef. I like that they have different protein options so I can rotate once I have him transitioned.

Thank you all so much! I know this shouldn’t be a replacement of veterinary care but you all have truly been more help than the vet ever has.

 

[helsonwheels]

I wanted to send a quick update after following your suggestions. 1. The NuStock worked wonders on the hotspot and between toes. Holy moly! 2. I have washed all of his blankets in water only. 3. I researched the raw diet and ordered the starter batch of 80/10/10 beef. I like that they have different protein options so I can rotate once I have him transitioned.

Thank you all so much! I know this shouldn’t be a replacement of veterinary care but you all have truly been more help than the vet ever has.

All them little things you’re doing, “sometimes“ it is a replacement for a vet. But yes, very true our hands can be tied n you definitely need your vet asap. The more you keep on the maintenance, the less you see your vet.

 

[Sunflower13]

All them little things you’re doing, “sometimes“ it is a replacement for a vet. But yes, very true our hands can be tied n you definitely need your vet asap. The more you keep on the maintenance, the less you see your vet.

I wanted to send an update after visiting the Veterinary Dermatologist. (Btw, I was on a waiting list for a month or more then it was 2 more months until appt date which was this am. I only mention in case you're considering it. Just get on waiting list at least.) Anyway, 90 min appt and $600 later... the Derm wants Cooper off of raw since it's typically the protein causing the problem. She wants him on Royal Canin PR (Protein Rabbit) and nothing else. Bathe in miconizole/chlorhexidine shampoo 2x a week, and started him on Prednisone, Ketoconizole, and Cephalexin to treat the red, itchy, inflamed skin. He has a skin infection which is a normal loop for these guys. Something is causing them to itch but then they open their skin and it gets infected. Treating with antibiotics helps in the short term but finding the cause is the million dollar question. Ugh. She has no faith in the saliva allergy test I did. She basically said throw it away.

 

[2BullyMama]

I wanted to send an update after visiting the Veterinary Dermatologist. (Btw, I was on a waiting list for a month or more then it was 2 more months until appt date which was this am. I only mention in case you're considering it. Just get on waiting list at least.) Anyway, 90 min appt and $600 later... the Derm wants Cooper off of raw since it's typically the protein causing the problem. She wants him on Royal Canin PR (Protein Rabbit) and nothing else. Bathe in miconizole/chlorhexidine shampoo 2x a week, and started him on Prednisone, Ketoconizole, and Cephalexin to treat the red, itchy, inflamed skin. He has a skin infection which is a normal loop for these guys. Something is causing them to itch but then they open their skin and it gets infected. Treating with antibiotics helps in the short term but finding the cause is the million dollar question. Ugh. She has no faith in the saliva allergy test I did. She basically said throw it away.

So sorry! It makes no sense to blame raw and place you on a kibble they probably sell in their office. Can you source raw rabbit or duck? To give that a try? Just a thought

 

[Sunflower13]

So sorry! It makes no sense to blame raw and place you on a kibble they probably sell in their office. Can you source raw rabbit or duck? To give that a try? Just a thought

Thank You! I thought of that too but not until after I left and had time to process it all. I can get raw rabbit and duck (cooper liked the duck) but he was still itchy I’m sure from skin infection. I may try the kibble and do exactly as the vet says. I’m secretly happy to reclaim my freezer from raw lol. Then see if he improves. If I can get him stable on this rabbit potato formula, I’ll talk to her about switching to raw rabbit.