EllieMay

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Cinder is almost 6 months old now and it’s time to have her spayed...I have been nervous about this because I have not been able to completely trust her regular vet.. She has had a few issues that I have discussed with the vet and disagreed with her opinion on..I did what I thought was best regardless and Cinder has done very well... Now I’m no vet but I have the nickname “EllieMay” for a reason...

Anyway... they were going over their routine procedures for spaying and mentioned that they required your pet to stay overnight... I haven’t had to do this in many years but I never had to leave one overnight before...so I began to question why? The lady explains to me that it’s for observation and in the best interest of the animal.. So I want to know who is staying overnight with my dog??? “ well no one physically... but we have camera monitoring and alarms... & I only live 2 minutes away if there is an issue”.

NO ONE?? so you want me to leave my dog who’s just had surgery in an empty building...where if something happens the RECEPTIONIST only lives two minutes away?.. WTF????


I am only sharing this to make people aware... IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING, ASK QUESTIONS!

I have a wonderful vet that is now about 2-1/2 hours away from me... I used him for my other animals before I moved to Marshall 7 years ago and have continued to use him because our issues have been pretty rare.. I had thought to get a local vet for Cinder but now I believe I’ll make the drive...

Sorry for the rant..I’m still HOT!
 

MFrey2012

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Good Job Mama EllieMay standing up for Cinder!! I was terrified of Ellie getting spayed, I raked them over the coals with Questions before the scheduling the procedure, and THANKFULLY Ellie has TWO wonderful Vets, she had her procedure done, and did stay the night, but it was at a 24/7 Hospital, fully staffed with Vets.

Just curious, why the Spay so early?? Both Ellie's Vet's would not Spay her till (3) Mos AFTER her 1st Heat Cycle...So for Ellie she was BARELY past 1yr...

PS WE LOVE CINDER...
 
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Thank you Melissa! She’s pretty special to me too ;~}

The practice of spaying at a younger age has been proven to have an easier recovery time and be a less complicated surgery in the stages before first heat... it also reduces the risk of Mammary Tumors.. This is the first dog I have ever had spayed this early so I confirmed this info in several places... I guess it kind of makes sense...
 

MFrey2012

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Thank you Melissa! She’s pretty special to me too ;~}

The practice of spaying at a younger age has been proven to have an easier recovery time and be a less complicated surgery in the stages before first heat... it also reduces the risk of Mammary Tumors.. This is the first dog I have ever had spayed this early so I confirmed this info in several places... I guess it kind of makes sense...

Makes sense, I am sure she will do great!!
 

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Thank you Melissa! She’s pretty special to me too ;~}

The practice of spaying at a younger age has been proven to have an easier recovery time and be a less complicated surgery in the stages before first heat... it also reduces the risk of Mammary Tumors.. This is the first dog I have ever had spayed this early so I confirmed this info in several places... I guess it kind of makes sense...

I thought I had a temper loll. Good job girl!!!

My lovely EllieMay.....more n more new studies shows to wait for the dog’s first heat. If you look at the studies in Europe they barely get their dogs spayed or neutered. Cinder IMO should definitely wait till her first heat. These studies as you mentioned is incorrect. Like you said, question it....Why is it in Europe which their dogs are mostly all intact don’t have same health issues like here? Cancer, tumors, bone issues would be higher over in Europe than here according to these studies on this side n yet, Europe dogs have less issues n mostly all intact. It’s like us women, as you know if you get everything ripped out of you, you have a huge risk ending up with other issues. Same as dogs. This is more of a western side of the planet cause people here are so not responsible n why our shelters n fostering is jammed packed. Why they push it more here. IMO, I doubt it has to do with health issues. A dog is a dog, doesn’t matter what side of the planet they are. They will all have the same issues no matter what. Why I say if Europe’s dogs are mostly all intact n has no problem, sure proves to me yes ME that there is no need to have them fix. If you want to at least wait for their first heat. My males have/had vasectomies only cause my sons have a few females n males and I didn’t want any pregnancies. Why I find a vet that does vasectomies. I want them to keep everything going. If I would get another female I would simply have her tubes tied. But again that’s me. Everyone believes differently. It’s all good. :) Here’s a few links you might want to read before you decide as 6months is way too young. She needs her hormones for her bones n joints and all..... :)

https://www.baxterboo.com/fun/a.cfm/why-you-should-consider-not-spaying-or-neutering-your-dog

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/your-dog-needs-to-be-spayed-or-neutered-right/

https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/health/articles/spaying-female-dog.html
 

sisters3

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Cinder is almost 6 months old now and it’s time to have her spayed...I have been nervous about this because I have not been able to completely trust her regular vet.. She has had a few issues that I have discussed with the vet and disagreed with her opinion on..I did what I thought was best regardless and Cinder has done very well... Now I’m no vet but I have the nickname “EllieMay” for a reason...

Anyway... they were going over their routine procedures for spaying and mentioned that they required your pet to stay overnight... I haven’t had to do this in many years but I never had to leave one overnight before...so I began to question why? The lady explains to me that it’s for observation and in the best interest of the animal.. So I want to know who is staying overnight with my dog??? “ well no one physically... but we have camera monitoring and alarms... & I only live 2 minutes away if there is an issue”.

NO ONE?? so you want me to leave my dog who’s just had surgery in an empty building...where if something happens the RECEPTIONIST only lives two minutes away?.. WTF????


I am only sharing this to make people aware... IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING, ASK QUESTIONS!

I have a wonderful vet that is now about 2-1/2 hours away from me... I used him for my other animals before I moved to Marshall 7 years ago and have continued to use him because our issues have been pretty rare.. I had thought to get a local vet for Cinder but now I believe I’ll make the drive...

Sorry for the rant..I’m still HOT!

Mamma Bear You Go Girl!!! I’d have done the exact same thing, WTF is right! Cinder you have the best Mom!
 

sisters3

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Thank you Melissa! She’s pretty special to me too ;~}

The practice of spaying at a younger age has been proven to have an easier recovery time and be a less complicated surgery in the stages before first heat... it also reduces the risk of Mammary Tumors.. This is the first dog I have ever had spayed this early so I confirmed this info in several places... I guess it kind of makes sense...


FYI my girl Joey had her spay surgery at 6 months for the reasons you’ve mentioned, on the advice of her vet
 
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I thought I had a temper loll. Good job girl!!!

My lovely EllieMay.....more n more new studies shows to wait for the dog’s first heat. If you look at the studies in Europe they barely get their dogs spayed or neutered. Cinder IMO should definitely wait till her first heat. These studies as you mentioned is incorrect. Like you said, question it....Why is it in Europe which their dogs are mostly all intact don’t have same health issues like here? Cancer, tumors, bone issues would be higher over in Europe than here according to these studies on this side n yet, Europe dogs have less issues n mostly all intact. It’s like us women, as you know if you get everything ripped out of you, you have a huge risk ending up with other issues. Same as dogs. This is more of a western side of the planet cause people here are so not responsible n why our shelters n fostering is jammed packed. Why they push it more here. IMO, I doubt it has to do with health issues. A dog is a dog, doesn’t matter what side of the planet they are. They will all have the same issues no matter what. Why I say if Europe’s dogs are mostly all intact n has no problem, sure proves to me yes ME that there is no need to have them fix. If you want to at least wait for their first heat. My males have/had vasectomies only cause my sons have a few females n males and I didn’t want any pregnancies. Why I find a vet that does vasectomies. I want them to keep everything going. If I would get another female I would simply have her tubes tied. But again that’s me. Everyone believes differently. It’s all good. :) Here’s a few links you might want to read before you decide as 6months is way too young. She needs her hormones for her bones n joints and all..... :)

https://www.baxterboo.com/fun/a.cfm/why-you-should-consider-not-spaying-or-neutering-your-dog

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/your-dog-needs-to-be-spayed-or-neutered-right/

https://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/health/articles/spaying-female-dog.html
Thank you! I AM going to do some more research... I also am hugely in favor leaving ovaries.. every female needs hormones.. these days, technology is so modern.. I had a full hysterectomy last year and they left my ovaries for all the reasons you stated... it was so easy on me and I would like nothing less for Cinder... not sure if that’s an option but you can bet that I will know every one before we do anything..
 
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FYI my girl Joey had her spay surgery at 6 months for the reasons you’ve mentioned, on the advice of her vet
Thanks Sue!! There is always so much conflicting info on every decision you have to make ... I won’t do anything until I feel good about it. I think y’all are awesome. I’m glad to be apart of so much experience. It counts for a lot.
 

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Thanks Sue!! There is always so much conflicting info on every decision you have to make ... I won’t do anything until I feel good about it. I think y’all are awesome. I’m glad to be apart of so much experience. It counts for a lot.

Sure! Joey and I have been members here since she was 9 weeks old (turns 5 end of May) We could not have survived without the help of this awesome community!!! I am so glad that you and sweet Cinder found your way here!!!
 

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Cinder is almost 6 months old now and it’s time to have her spayed...I have been nervous about this because I have not been able to completely trust her regular vet.. She has had a few issues that I have discussed with the vet and disagreed with her opinion on..I did what I thought was best regardless and Cinder has done very well... Now I’m no vet but I have the nickname “EllieMay” for a reason...

Anyway... they were going over their routine procedures for spaying and mentioned that they required your pet to stay overnight... I haven’t had to do this in many years but I never had to leave one overnight before...so I began to question why? The lady explains to me that it’s for observation and in the best interest of the animal.. So I want to know who is staying overnight with my dog??? “ well no one physically... but we have camera monitoring and alarms... & I only live 2 minutes away if there is an issue”.

NO ONE?? so you want me to leave my dog who’s just had surgery in an empty building...where if something happens the RECEPTIONIST only lives two minutes away?.. WTF????


I am only sharing this to make people aware... IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF ANYTHING, ASK QUESTIONS!

I have a wonderful vet that is now about 2-1/2 hours away from me... I used him for my other animals before I moved to Marshall 7 years ago and have continued to use him because our issues have been pretty rare.. I had thought to get a local vet for Cinder but now I believe I’ll make the drive...

Sorry for the rant..I’m still HOT!

YOU GO!!!! Our vet has a tech stay if any animal needs to be there overnight. If none are onsite, no tech needed.

We also drive an hour to our vet and there is an office we could walk to so I can totally relate. Know your gut and follow it.

As for spay... 6 is earliest, our vet recommended after 1st spay, but with all new procedures... it is good to research and do what you feel is best for you and Cinder


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[MENTION=19271]EllieMay[/MENTION] Good post - one of course assumes leaving a dog means there will be someone watching her! It surprises me if it is even legal to have customers pay for hospitalisation if there is no staff on site. Seems like a dodgy place.
 

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Just saw this post and I'm glad you asked the question "who was going to be at the office all night to watch her"... We just had Lexi spayed (9months) and I would never leave her overnight, I trust myself enough to watch her and know if anything goes wrong. Lexi's spay went smooth and she was acting great by the next day...the hard part was keeping her calm and not jumping. My last pup that I had spayed, this was back in the early 2000's, it was hard to find a place where she wasn't required to spend the night. I'm glad they've backed off on that. I know it's more work for us but I also believe they heal better when they aren't under the stress of being in a strange place without their family.
 

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Hi! Raising an obedient animal is a long, time–consuming process that requires patience and endurance. Not every owner can do this, so inexperienced dog breeders often turn to an instructor. But, if you do not plan to take a four-legged friend to exhibitions or you have a decorative breed, you can do training at home. But personally, I chose the services of real professionals, which is why I asked for help from https://www.veterinaryschoolsu.com/vet-assistant/vet-assistant-vs-vet-tech/.
 
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