Whats your thoughts on these pups?

[jonny392]

So I am new to the whole bulldog world and I am slowly learning the ropes, I have been reading up on the breed and have learnt a lot but interested in learning much more. I am currently on the lookout for a top quality pup which I could possibly show in the future. As I am a novice I was wondering if you guys could help me pick a pup from the ones attached based on show quality.

 

[bullmama]

It's hard to tell so young, and I'm no expert, but I would say the last two. What do you think [MENTION=3354]RiiSi[/MENTION] [MENTION=2071]Davidh[/MENTION] ?


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[Davidh]

It's hard to tell when they are that young, because they change so much in the coming weeks and months. They both have good bone, and look nice, but the one with a mostly white face looks a little long, but that could change in a few weeks.

 

[schimpfy]

not sure but 3 and 5 win my vote

 

[jonny392]

There are 5 different pups in the pictures. the first 3 pictures are the same, 4th picture I only picture of pup, 5th and 6th are the same, 7th-9th are the same, 10-11th are the same.

 

[jonny392]

[MENTION=2071]Davidh[/MENTION] whats your thoughts after reading my last post? If you had to pick one what would it be?

 

[agentbunny]

They are all adorable! From what I can see, the first pup is the only one with rose (correct) ears but he/ she has a gay tail which is incorrect. Why show? Pick the one that has the best skin, the tightest knees, and a tail that is not tight or inverted. A healthy bulldog with the least health concerns is what I would consider top quality ( I like the first baby best but I would gobble any of them up!)


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[Davidh]

[MENTION=12645]jonny392[/MENTION] The first one and the third on, pics 5 and 6 look good right now. Would like to see them in a week to see changes.

 

[dolphin]

5 & 6 are pics of a Champ.

 

[Scueva]

IMHO those puppy are great pets but they are lacking substance- here are some examples of show quality pups - notice the difference- wrinkly, heavy bone, short backs, lots of substance- these pups are between 8 & 14 weeks old

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IMHO those puppy are great pets but they are lacking substance- here are some examples of show quality pups - notice the difference- wrinkly, heavy bone, short backs, lots of substance- these pups are between 8 & 14 weeks old

 

[Scueva]

Another thing to keep in mind is most show breeders keep back their best pups and offer their show quality pups on co-ownership. You also need to be willing to spend between $3k -$5k for a show quality pup. Furthermore unless the breeders you are contacting actively are involved in showing the chances of them producing show quality are slim. Show quality pups also typically come from Atleast 1 champion parent and should have a minimum of 1 champion grandparent on each side and 2 champion great grand parents on each side. Lots of breeders claim show quite so they can charge more money and most buyers aren't educated enough to know the difference. I would find some local shows in your area either specially or all breed and go see the blogs there and see what wins and talk to their owners. The pups in those pics look like pet quality to me maybe $1800-$2500 price range- a search on puppyfind.com returns well over 1000 bully pups for sale. I would be surprised if 5% of them were actual show quality

 

[HoustonBullyLover]

Its important to see the parents as well.
Have you read the breed standard?
My baby has champs on both sides for 3 generations and he is not show quality.

 

[agentbunny]

Here is the illustrated guide for the breed standard that you can use for selecting a show pup. You can print it and bring it with you to the breeders. Since it has clear pictures of correct conformation as well as pictures of faults, it will be easy to compare:
http://www.bulldogclubofamerica.org/bulldog.aspx?id=443

 

[jonny392]

I liked the pup in pictures 7-9 but no-one seems to rate it.

 

[RiiSi]

It's really hard to tell from pups that age and only based on a photo. You need to see the pups from all angles the parents too.
The angulations, back, tail set...etc. The pup in number 9 looks good, but you take the risk that his ears don't perk. My other pups ears perked up at 11 weeks and I was starting to get worried.