well Chad- I question the purity of your Bulldog AKC papers if he can keep up with collies at the dog parks. or run for hours.
and as to the
"but if you follow family trees back enough you can still find bloodlines that have to ability to be fairly good working dogs, sure not Collie working." and they do not drink enough water 99% of the time. of course no one lets them gulp it after playing hard. just short drinks till they cool down !they do not drink enough . that shows me how little you have researched and read up on English Bulldogs!
No sane bulldog will weight pull until you want him to quit. they tire to fast just as in the days of bull fighting. those days they just bit and hung on, locking the jaw.
they are a
NON SPORTING breed. meant to keep humans company no more.
you cannot compare what they used to be with today, just like you cannot compare humans the same way either. DUH!! and yes most Bullies are over weight ,but that is because many are getting corn in the food.and lots of folks do not realize that they shouldn't buy the food the vets recommend! (if they stock and sell the brand ,the pet food CO gives generous donations to the vets college of choice, supposedly for vet students )so I tell folks never to buy from a vet - they have ulterior motives!
if some of this isn't enough to make you choose more carefully , well Bulldogs are 180 degrees different than any other breed for their needs ,in all fields.
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When a pet parent contacts you reporting a sick, dying, or dead pet they believe to be caused from your pet food/treat - what is your company protocol for handing the report?
they acknowledge the call / email.
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When a complaint is initiated by a consumer, we let the consumer know that we have received their email (or phone call) and will be opening a file or checking into the matter for them. We can check with Quality Assurance on lot numbers if they are provided, again lab results will be available for each lot number of our products. We do extensive testing on all kibble before we release it to our shipping warehouse. All of our finished kibble is held before shipping in order to have testing done for Salmonella and Enterobacteriaceae (which includes E.coli) etc., this is part of our quality control process. No product is shipped until all of our tests come back clear.
From there, we can arrange for testing on a sample of the consumers kibble, we try to tailor our response to the individual needs and concerns of each person who contacts us.
Our Quality Assurance department logs and tracks all complaints, so we know if more than one has come in on a particular lot number.
Now they have skirted the answers like they did with me on the phone, so they keep track of complaints,
they only test for two things!!!
and they acknowledge a call or email, and then go to check their own logs @ their labs.
they have not got any protocol for outside testing of tainted customers and their lots of food.
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in summery to your question about length of time Orejin has been on the market, is miniscule. in business years, I have shoes older then that. and granted they may have won an award or two ,but how many others were tested also?? I would like to see that list.
NOW no one is more proactive about Canada, that is my home. grew up there. they are very much concerned about quality ---NORMALLY-- but remember the food recall of 2007--- that was menu foods in Canada---
so again . I am answering your questions about what is wrong with Orejin/Arcana ?? it all sounds to good to be true, AND the advertizement (white paper ) is just that . Bulldogs are NOT A WORKING BREED. if you have one that actually is active --it may be one of two, I have come across in 12 yrs of dealing with English Bulldogs by the hundreds. now if you Bulldog has some French in him that may be different.
But English Bulldogs are actually very fragile to many things. heat, over exertion, and growing things,things they touch, not to mention a Bulldog protocol for surgeries. I don't suppose you thought of that. and the Fact that a regular vet will not have a clue how to properly car for or recognize Bulldog issues, Owners must have a experienced Bulldog vet with experience.(check the local Bulldog club on line to find owners who can recommend one)
I would not try a food until it was time tested for issues, nor would I use food from a Company that was so secretive/ non forthcoming with answers to direct questions!
dog are not wolves- but I musts say this has been a good gimmick for consumers for several years now. a taste of the wild did this too. but people finally caught on, to simple advertising.and recognized that
it was just that.
as to veggies and fruits--some things like corn do not digest, watch the poop and delete what doesn't -not a huge task. but all in all they fruit and veggies do so much good in many ways. it helps reduce the acid contents of the urine as one example. just no preservatives. meat, fruit, and veggies, we should all eat like that.
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please read this article, and if it is happening in the states.you can bet the pet food industry in Canada is also trying it.whether or not they succeed is the test of us pet owners keeping tabs on the industry.
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No April Fools - Buyer Beware is on Amazon!
No April Fools - Buyer Beware is on Amazon!
Written By: Susan Thixton
4-1-2011
Categorized in: Pet Food Ingredients, Pet Food News, Pet Food Regulations
It's here! And of all days right? This April Fools day is not fooling with pet parents, Big Pet Food perhaps.
My book compiling years of writing and research from TruthaboutPetFood.com is now available in paperback on Amazon.com. The Kindle version isn't ready yet; formatting issue.
Sort of ironic that the book became available on April Fools day. I'm one of those whose birthday is on the 13th; I've always loved it when my birthday landed on a Friday. In fact, I turned 13 on Friday the 13th and my Father turned 33 on Friday the 13th. I consider it lucky. So when I was expecting sometime next week for Buyer Beware to be available on Amazon.com and it showed up available today - April Fools Day - I consider this luck too!
The 'fools' won't be pet parents. The 'fools' will be the pet food companies that think they can continue to sell recycled waste into dog foods and cat foods under the guise of healthy. The 'fools' will be the FDA if they think they can continue to ignore federal law with pet food.
Happy April Fools day!
Direct Link to Buyer Beware: The Crimes, Lies and Truth about Pet Food.
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