UTI/white blood cells

[jessica989]

My bully is on her third round of antibiotics for a UTI (or at least that what was initially believed. December 19th, the urine showed white blood cells (50 something) and she was given CIPROFLOXACIN 250MG for 10 days. A recheck showed the white blood cells decreased by about half but a higher amount of bacteria was present. So she was given Primor 10 days. Another recheck showed bacteria was gone but the still white blood cells. After 10 more days of Primor, a recheck shows the white blood cells are at the 50 mark. She will be going in for a Catheter for urine sample and a culture. Curious if anyone has had similar issues at all?

She also had a sore/swollen/itchy vagina and I have been wiping with chlorohexadine wipes. she isn’t trying to itch it as much, but doesn’t want it touched.

 

[oscarmayer]

We've had 1 Bulldog come through rescue with recurring UTIs and it took an ultrasound to find the staghorn stone in 1 kidney. Once the infection was under control she was pulsed antibiotics for the remainder of her days...several years.
Start with the culture and go from there...that is the best course of action other than seeking a 2nd opinion.

 

[Dollys Owner]

I'm surprised they never cultured her to see what was growing and what it was sensitive to, just kept giving her antibiotics. Does she have any crystals in her urine? Is her urine more acidic or alkaline than normal? Did they do an ultrasound of bladder to look for stones?

If she has e.coli growing in her urine it would help prevent recurrences if you gave her d-mannose powder as a supplement, or d-mannose with cranberry extract.

She should definitely be on some sort of probiotic because of all the antibiotics she's been on.

 

[helsonwheels]

Holy... 3rd round of antibiotics?!?! Definitely immune system is down n it can’t fight. Absolutely need probiotics to bing the gut flora back on track. Nyala had same issue as a pup. Got fed up n I started to cook for her. In a week all disappeared. She build her immune system with homemade fresh food. You needto remember antibiotics also kills the good cells why while on any antibiotics we always feed some sort of probiotics like fermented sauerkraut or fermented veggies in the refrigerated side or even better, frozen smelly green tripe at your pet shop freezer section.

 

[jessica989]

I’ve added a probiotic recently to her food. Hopefully it’s enough. They are doing a culture now. Not sure what type of test they do in the office as I’ve collected urine multiple time (less than fun!)

I didn’t ask about crystals or acidic etc.

No ultrasound because she doesn’t have any red blood cells in her urine which they said they would expect to see. (I think that was the reason). I assume after the culture of that doesn’t show anything perhaps that will be next?

 

[helsonwheels]

I’ve added a probiotic recently to her food. Hopefully it’s enough. They are doing a culture now. Not sure what type of test they do in the office as I’ve collected urine multiple time (less than fun!)

I didn’t ask about crystals or acidic etc.

No ultrasound because she doesn’t have any red blood cells in her urine which they said they would expect to see. (I think that was the reason). I assume after the culture of that doesn’t show anything perhaps that will be next?

What’s the probiotic?

 

[jessica989]

I am using Nutravet probiotic.... would Greek yogurt help?

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Nutravet digestive enzymes

 

[jessica989]

What’s the probiotic?

Nutravet digestive

 

[helsonwheels]

Nutravet digestive Is enzymes n probiotics. I rather give it as food.

https://healthypets.mercola.com/sit...tation-eliminates-raw-pet-food-pathogens.aspx

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/fermented-foods-for-dogs/

 

[Dollys Owner]

Nutravet digestive Is enzymes n probiotics. I rather give it as food.

https://healthypets.mercola.com/sit...tation-eliminates-raw-pet-food-pathogens.aspx

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/fermented-foods-for-dogs/

A dog specific commercial probiotic like the one mentioned should work too.

Another idea-You could take frozen raw dog food and ferment it yourself by marinading it at room or refrigerator temp with yoghurt,milk kefir, kombucha vinegar etc. [MENTION=3354]RiiSi[/MENTION] talked about it on this thread http://www.englishbulldognews.com/forums/english-bulldog-dog-food-and-nutrition/60690-advice-raw-food-change-3.html

 

[RiiSi]

3 rounds of antibiotics and just now they're doing a culture? Really before you know more the best thing to do is a heavy dose of probiotics. You didn't mention what food you're feeding?

 

[helsonwheels]

We need to understand, “probiotics refrigerated vs shelf.” I prefer the refrigerated ones as there are specific strains in the bottle that needs to be in the fridge to stay alive. Now shelf life, what a lot of people don’t know n should be on the label n make sure you have good eyesight cause it will be in very fine print, it needs to be between 68 and 72 degrees Fahrenheit wherever it’s sitting. If it’s not on the label, it’s on their website somewhere. Probably under acknowledgement section. The perfect probiotic lays under....how it was transported to the store. We have no clue how long it’s been sitting at the docks or at truck depots which can be for hours, often in the heat of the sun or how long it’s also been sitting in the back box of truck without refrigerated control. Basically it’s all about how it’s stored and shipped under strict temperature control. Shelf has a much higher risk that the strains has already died in the bottle. Why I would “never” buy any probiotics on a shelf. Any shelf products are usually all heated to seal the container, jars or bottles. This goes also for any human food. Anything that is canned is basically dead. You’re eating nothing that has a nutritional value. Just like pet food in a can. Heat kills! Another reason why we should simply buy fermented food as a probiotic. All these boutique shelf supplements or chewy type and even all these fancy kibbles is all about marketing. Don’t break your head, very simple, fermented sauerkraut, fermented veggies, fermented ACV, smelly green frozen tripe, organs or fresh wild caught frozen whole fish. It’s loaded of natural probiotics.