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Yes he goes for his first dip tomorrow morning. A woman breeder who I speak with via e mail who has been very helpful with things urged me to go to the live stock store and buy some ivermectin and insulin syringes. I am too afraid to start injecting that stuff into Buddy. She also said I could just topically put it on the affected areas but I think I am going to let me vet do her thing. I am insured so at least I will get the money back.. I am also noticing Buddy itch's A LOT. his hind legs about the knee area but inside and I am hoping that this is the mange as well. otherwise I am looking at another problem.. Thanks everyone.. Hero