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    I said I was looking to start Louie on Zignature but it doesn't look like it's an all life stage food. So this means it probably doesn't have as much calcium/phosphorous as an all life stage or puppy food. Does anyone have thoughts on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphne DuMaurier View Post
    I had a discussion yesterday with the pet store owner. He said Zignature is his best seller to folks who are "label readers" and have specific breed dogs. My dogs really loved the venison, but at $92 a 27lb bag and four dogs, I can't do it all the time. I did notice that within the last couple of weeks Daphne's eye stains have gone away...hmmm...we'll see what happens when she's on the duck again this time.


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    With 4 dogs on the venison I am sure it does get expensive! My dachshund gets what Monty gets and has no food issues thank goodness plus he doesn't eat much! The manager of the pet store I go to recommended Zignature as she has been through a few foods with me and as it has limited ingredients, thought it would be ideal. She seems to be really knowledgable about the different premium brands without having to study every label... like me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbrugs View Post
    I said I was looking to start Louie on Zignature but it doesn't look like it's an all life stage food. So this means it probably doesn't have as much calcium/phosphorous as an all life stage or puppy food. Does anyone have thoughts on that?
    The Duck says 'Complete and balanced diet for Puppy to Adult Dogs'. It's on the front of the bag. Just checked, they all say it except for the venison and salmon. So, apart from those two, it does sound like an all stage food. When in doubt, call them up and ask them! Please let us know if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    The Duck says 'Complete and balanced diet for Puppy to Adult Dogs'. It's on the front of the bag. Just checked, they all say it except for the venison and salmon. So, apart from those two, it does sound like an all stage food. When in doubt, call them up and ask them! Please let us know if you do.
    Oh, does it? I was looking online and couldn't find anything about it being an all stage food. It does look like it has a little bit less calcium and phosphorous than Fromm 4 Star. It doesn't look like a significant amount less but I wonder if there is a certain amount a puppy should be getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    The Duck says 'Complete and balanced diet for Puppy to Adult Dogs'. It's on the front of the bag. Just checked, they all say it except for the venison and salmon. So, apart from those two, it does sound like an all stage food. When in doubt, call them up and ask them! Please let us know if you do.
    Okay, I called them and they said that all of their formulas are for all life stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbrugs View Post
    Oh, does it? I was looking online and couldn't find anything about it being an all stage food. It does look like it has a little bit less calcium and phosphorous than Fromm 4 Star. It doesn't look like a significant amount less but I wonder if there is a certain amount a puppy should be getting.
    After reading this I looked at Chewy's website where the bags say puppy to adult but on Zignature's website, they don't! Hmmm. So I called them and they said all their foods are all stage food and once on Zignature, you can rotate between any recipe. As to the calcium and phosphorous, someone else will have to chime in on that as I'm afraid I don't have a clue!

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    Okay, I called them and they said that all of their formulas are for all life stages.
    Oops, you posted while I was typing!

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    In large breed puppies you want to slow down growth, as dog will eventually hit full size, but if he obtains that size too fast there will be orthopedic problems later. So you really don't want to overfeed a puppy ( definitely no loose poos ), and you don't want too little or too much calcium. Many breeders don't even use puppy food if the calcium and phosphorus percentages are good in the adult food. From what I've seen the Zignature foods are too low in calcium and phosphorus, but I haven't looked at them all. Another interesting fact about Zignature is that they don't make their own dog food, they have co-packers, (dry dog food made by Tuffy’s or KLN in Minnesota and performance Pet in South Dakota prepares the canned dog foods ) but so far never a recall.

    Target percentages for large breed puppies on a dry matter basis How to Choose the Best Large Breed Puppy Food | Dog Food Advisor :
    1.2 to 1.8% calcium

    1.0 to 1.6% phosphorus

    Calcium-to-phosphorus ratio 1:1 to 1.8:1

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    So, according to Dog Food Advisor, does this meet the parameters you stated above? As I stated before, I am clueless about all this and I am trying to figure it out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollys Owner View Post
    In large breed puppies you want to slow down growth, as dog will eventually hit full size, but if he obtains that size too fast there will be orthopedic problems later. So you really don't want to overfeed a puppy ( definitely no loose poos ), and you don't want too little or too much calcium. Many breeders don't even use puppy food if the calcium and phosphorus percentages are good in the adult food. From what I've seen the Zignature foods are too low in calcium and phosphorus, but I haven't looked at them all. Another interesting fact about Zignature is that they don't make their own dog food, they have co-packers, (dry dog food made by Tuffy’s or KLN in Minnesota and performance Pet in South Dakota prepares the canned dog foods ) but so far never a recall.

    Target percentages for large breed puppies on a dry matter basis How to Choose the Best Large Breed Puppy Food | Dog Food Advisor :
    1.2 to 1.8% calcium

    1.0 to 1.6% phosphorus

    Calcium-to-phosphorus ratio 1:1 to 1.8:1
    My breeder doesn't give puppy food, straight to adult. It looks like Fromm has a good calcium/phosphorus percentage. I plan on doing kibble for a couple of months and then will probably switch to Grandma Lucy's.


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    I think Grandma Lucy's is good choice, since it's freeze dried, which is even better than dehydrated, and has the right percentages of calcium and phosphorus for all life stages

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