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    I really hope so! I was lost when I was trying to find info out when he was first diagnosed.

    One thing I keep thinking is how he never had any health issues except his seasonal skin allergies and here we are. I am still in contact with his breeders (the separate owners of mom and dad), some of his litter mates, as well as some half siblings. Curly, not only is the biggest among all of them (none have his long body and legs), but the only one who has lymphoma be (mom and dad have passed but it wasn't due to cancer). That's makes me believe that the cause of his is potentially environmental.

    I am happy overall with his health at the moment, despite the skin issues. Stu believes that Curly will surprise us all and live to 100 lol.

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    How is Curly doing now? We just got back from the vet with a potential cancer diagnosis and are trying to balance the quality of life vs cost problem. our EB is 10 years old, relativity healthy but has def slowed down the past 2 years. Any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tate2020 View Post
    How is Curly doing now? We just got back from the vet with a potential cancer diagnosis and are trying to balance the quality of life vs cost problem. our EB is 10 years old, relativity healthy but has def slowed down the past 2 years. Any advice?
    So far so good! He has a cancer check on Tuesday so we will see what his blood work says.

    There are two variables that I feel made a difference with curly... 1 - age. Curly was 4 months shy of his 6th birthday when he was diagnosed. 2 - we caught it really early. He was just at the vet a few weeks prior and no physical signs of cancer. Then he had bloody diarrhea (he NEVER had diarrhea either) and that is when we took him back in.

    Curly was otherwise a perfectly healthy bulldog before this, so it took us by alarm. Had he not been healthy, "young" and had we not lost another dog unexpectedly 6 months earlier, we probably wouldn't have done chemo.

    So my advice would be take into consideration that chemo might just be a bandaid (for example, lymphoma normally comes back about 6 months after chemo is complete). From what I heard from other owners who were taking their dogs through chemo is older dogs tend to have stronger side effects (most owners I encountered at the clinic dog's were 8-12 years and they complained about their dog appearing to be more sick than before). Also, how far along the cancer is might impact his response to chemo/quality of life too.

    It's a tough decision and with a 10y/o dog is even tougher. At the end of the day, there isn't a wrong or right decision; it is whatever you are mentally prepared for too.

    I wish you all the best and please keep us posted.


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    Sorry for the few day gap - work has been busy.

    On Tuesday, Curly had his 4 month follow-up visit to the vet since completing Tanovea, and he is still in remission! I asked the vet how many months he has been in remission, because I really couldn't remember, and she said that technically he is 6 months remission (remission start once they cannot detect the cancer cells, during chemo) and 4 months remission since completing Tanovea. She also said, that he is doing exceedingly well after treatment and if the lymphoma does come back, she would recommend Tanovea again.

    In short, she said that it is low incidence for a dog to have failed the Madison-Wisconsin protocol, switch protocols to Tanovea and still be in remission for as long as he has been in remission. Since Tanovea was his second line of treatment, the expectation was that he might not be in remission for more than 6 months. She has seen one other case and from that experience, the cancer cames back and the dog was treated again with Tanovea, its remission period was even longer than the first - which is the opposite of the norm, as mentioned, the norm is remission is less with each line of treatment. She thinks Curly's lymphoma might be a similar case...

    Again this is very hopeful news, however, Tanovea is really expensive, and while he is doing great, I really think it has been the luck of the draw. IF the time comes, we'll give it a lot of thought but right now I'm just excited that he is still hanging in there strong

    On another note - I've been watching those commercials about Roundup causing non-Hodgkin Lymphoma and I keep wondering if the owner of the house we rented in VA used Roundup in their yard at some point (the home owner, by trade, was a landscaper). I have other dogs who don't have lymphoma and lived in VA along side Curly. However, there are genetic cues that make some more susceptible to certain diseases if environmentally exposed to things that could cause it...just a thought that keeps running through my head each time I see those commercials.
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    @nubonics.... Remission!!! Yay Curly!!! Our little trooper! Love great updates. They’re da best. I’m so happy for you

    Regarding roundup, I’m 200% with what you’re thinking. I don’t trust anything from Monsanto. I’ve been looking on n off for a cottage along waterfront back home n many nice ones came up but a lot are close to golf courses. Hell there is no way I would ever buy anything near or along a golf course. They don’t have a beautiful green grass cause the pick every dandelions by hand. My partner loves to fish n why we want waterfront. Also the pups will be playing in the water. I heard Costco here will not be selling roundup anymore. That will be a good kick in the butt for Monsanto/Bayer.

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    Glad to hear Curly is doing.

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    @helsonwheels we are almost off the grid in the mountain we live on now. We would need solar panels to be 100% off the grid.

    We have spring mountain water, and as a part of the HOA regulations no chemicals can be used outdoors as it can pollute our natural water supply. Everyone in this community takes it so seriously! It's amazing...and also why I stayed in Colorado when the Army moved my husband to Los Angeles.

    I am seriously leaning towards Roundup though. I am still in contact with both of Curly's parents' breeders as well as some of his siblings...both his parents are still alive and the siblings I'm in contact with have had perfect health (aside from joint issues) just like Curly did before this diagnosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nubonics View Post
    @helsonwheels we are almost off the grid in the mountain we live on now. We would need solar panels to be 100% off the grid.

    We have spring mountain water, and as a part of the HOA regulations no chemicals can be used outdoors as it can pollute our natural water supply. Everyone in this community takes it so seriously! It's amazing...and also why I stayed in Colorado when the Army moved my husband to Los Angeles.

    I am seriously leaning towards Roundup though. I am still in contact with both of Curly's parents' breeders as well as some of his siblings...both his parents are still alive and the siblings I'm in contact with have had perfect health (aside from joint issues) just like Curly did before this diagnosis.

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    You can be the first to sue Roundup for a dog....

    Colorado is beautiful n very clean. Rockies do help enormously from New Mexico to northern west of Canada. Why I go often to Banff or Jasper. Clean fresh water for sure. Going to miss them when I move back East. In Quebec, been over a decade you can’t buy anywhere roundup or pesticides. Should be the same across Canada.

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    Such great news ... you and Stu have done a great job with his care! He is in a fantastic place to live and you are all better for it! Stay the course, Curly we love the positive progress.

    As for roundup... I can believe it is still even allows to be sold. Burns my buns when I see it in stores.


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