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Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but isnā€™t ground eggshell another option for calcium? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes itā€™s a great option. Most people all eat eggs in some form. Much cheaper too. :)
 

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Listen, donā€™t worry about calculating the % of organs, muscles, tripe, supplements etc. A raw topper on the main meals is very healthy along with a quality kibble. Itā€™s better all raw but donā€™t break your head. Start slowly n gradually you will figure out what to for your dog. Donā€™t overdo with all sorts of vitamins either, itā€™s a proven fact youā€™re better off getting your vitamins from Mother Nature n from food. You can use something for joints as itā€™s what goes first as in humans. But definitely no need to give everything under the sun. Dog or humans will not live any longer by popping supplements daily. Itā€™s all about what you eat just like in a pet. If youā€™re dog eats healthy with a proper raw topper, heā€™ll be fine. And yes needs exercises. :)

I like to use sea kelp of "Ascophyllum nodosum" strain , eg. Starwest Botanicals Sea Kelp, which serves two purposes. One is that it works like a multivitamin to supply vitamins and trace elements and minerals, and two is that it's supposed to help prevent tooth decay, it's also marketed as PlaqueOff https://www.amazon.com/Proden-PlaqueOff-Animal-180-gram/dp/B01CF2QUT0/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Plaque+off&qid=1589888797&sr=8-1 which is more expensive.

I also like to add in fish oil from a capsule to get an appropriate mix of EPA and DHA for my dog. My dog seems to be less itchy when she's on it, too.
 
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It's ok to refreeze if you partially thaw it in the refrigerator, cut it up, and then refreeze. eg. I find that a 1 pound chunk of frozen raw dog food takes about 2 hr in fridge to semi thaw.

It's not great long term to just feed liver. Feed half liver (5% of total diet) and half other organ such as heart (5% of diet). Theoretically the ideal ratios are 70-80% muscle meat, 10% bone or calcium carbonate, 10% organs ( half of which is liver ), and if you did 70% muscle meat the last 10% is about 7% vegetables and 3% fruit.

You should give about 1250 mg calcium per 1000kcal of food, or another way of looking at is about 800 to 1,000 milligrams of calcium per pound of fresh food. A teaspoon of calcium carbonate powder is 1200mg calcium. You can buy calcium carbonate powder from Amazon.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that long term you should add fish oil and sea kelp to the home cooked diet.

Ok, so i do plan on getting the kelp as well and they do get salmon oil everyday on their dinner. Sorry for not knowing but regarding the egg shells, would that be just a raw egg shell not cooked and ground up? If i do this i won't need the calcium carbonate right? How much egg shell should i use per meal or per day? also [MENTION=16619]Cbrugs[/MENTION]

ps... i do plan to get some different organs yet. I just haven't had the chance to get to a butcher. There is a raw coop on facebook in my area that i joined but i haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.. I don't have a deep freezer and not sure i have enough room for so much stuff since it will be in bulk.
 
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Listen, donā€™t worry about calculating the % of organs, muscles, tripe, supplements etc. A raw topper on the main meals is very healthy along with a quality kibble. Itā€™s better all raw but donā€™t break your head. Start slowly n gradually you will figure out what to for your dog. Donā€™t overdo with all sorts of vitamins either, itā€™s a proven fact youā€™re better off getting your vitamins from Mother Nature n from food. You can use something for joints as itā€™s what goes first as in humans. But definitely no need to give everything under the sun. Dog or humans will not live any longer by popping supplements daily. Itā€™s all about what you eat just like in a pet. If youā€™re dog eats healthy with a proper raw topper, heā€™ll be fine. And yes needs exercises. :)

LOL!!! Thank you for that!! because this is definitely part of why i haven't gone raw already... it is breaking my head! :no:
I think i may gradually switch their kibble from Fromm to Acana single and start with the topper of organs. I always add minced frozen green beans to their dinner, greek yogurt on breakfast. Dinner also gets a squirt of salmon oil and a little coconut oil. night time snack is banana and yogurt or strawberries/blueberries if out of banana. (but just a little) Also been putting a tsp of raw honey on it 3x wk. Veggies for snacks plus single ingredient treats like whitefish etc. And they get their nuvet plus before bed.

The main reason i want to go raw is for Stellas allergies. Her seasonal allergies are terrible. Cytopoint is helping but it doesn't take it away completely. I have been supplementing with benedryl or zyrtec.
 

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Ok, so i do plan on getting the kelp as well and they do get salmon oil everyday on their dinner. Sorry for not knowing but regarding the egg shells, would that be just a raw egg shell not cooked and ground up? If i do this i won't need the calcium carbonate right? How much egg shell should i use per meal or per day? also [MENTION=16619]Cbrugs[/MENTION]

ps... i do plan to get some different organs yet. I just haven't had the chance to get to a butcher. There is a raw coop on facebook in my area that i joined but i haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.. I don't have a deep freezer and not sure i have enough room for so much stuff since it will be in bulk.

It doesn't matter raw or coooked eggshells. It seems like a lot of work to me, that's why I didn't suggest it, but I found this on a website:

https://www.dogtipper.com/recipes/2013/10/make-eggshell-calcium-dog.html

Instructions
Collect washed eggshells in the refrigerator
until you have a dozen or enough to fill a cookie sheet.
Eggshells will begin to dry while in the refrigerator.
Preheat oven to 200 degrees Fahrenheit.
Spread the eggshells on a cookie sheet and bake
10-15 minutes.
If you washed the eggshells shortly before baking, allow extra baking time. Eggshells must be completely dry before grinding.
Grind the eggshells in a clean coffee grinder or a blender until all large pieces are ground to a powder. A mortar and pestle is also a great way to grind to a powder.
Store in a lidded jar.
 

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