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I’m wondering if this Witch Hazel is safe to use on my dog and is potentially better than the With hazels that contain Ethanol or Alcohol.
This is the only one any local stores carry, which I prefer than to order online.

Any thoughts?

Has anyone heard of this ‘ food grade’ preservative it uses(see ingredients below for the name of the preservative),
All I could find when I googled that preservative is that it’s a safe food grade preservative.

Is that preservative In here still safe to use on my dog for topical use and maybe less irritating than the alcohol they use in other witch hazel brands???
If this is a good product and that preservative In here is safe on my dog then I will buy it very soon and start using cotton pads and put this on it and clean my dogs wrinkles!

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Ingredients:
Hamamelis Virginiana eau(witch hazel)*, Polyepsilonlysine (Natural preservative), Aqua, Lactic acid.
 

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You should try it out and let us know how it works
 

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I was asking if anyone knows if that preservative in it is Safe for use on dogs and would be better than the witch Hazel that contains alcohol.

Do you know if that preservative is Safe for use on dogs or not??
 

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@Bulldog2001 - I don't know that answer nor do I go that deep into these because they are not used in such a volume I feel there needs to be a concern. You might want to check other types of websites for a sure answer.

I live by the 80 - 20 rule. I feed them raw, stay away from know chemicals and pesticides, and other every day toxins especially fragrances. I do my best with the knowledge I have but I don't try to go 100% clean, it is just too exhausting and stressful.

I think even with alcohol in it... witch hazel is a much better option than the leading baby wipe brand.
 

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@Bulldog2001 - I don't know that answer nor do I go that deep into these because they are not used in such a volume I feel there needs to be a concern. You might want to check other types of websites for a sure answer.

I live by the 80 - 20 rule. I feed them raw, stay away from know chemicals and pesticides, and other every day toxins especially fragrances. I do my best with the knowledge I have but I don't try to go 100% clean, it is just too exhausting and stressful.

I think even with alcohol in it... witch hazel is a much better option than the leading baby wipe brand.
Ok thank you.
I did google as much as I can on it and it says it’s a good grade preservative that is made from a amino acid. Even if it’s not 1000% safe, I think it’s the safest out of all the witch hazels.

I seen 1 brand alcohol free(I would rather not have any alcohol ingredients in the stuff I use on my dogs), and the 1 brand uses Benzoic acid(another form of sodium benzoate) and that ingredient can cause cancer in dogs, so I avoid it.
My dog is also allergic to many preservatives.

I did clean his wrinkles for the first time with that witch Hazel(the one I was asking about) on the cotton pads.

I also read you can use Apple Cider Vinegar diluted and put it on cotton pad and use that to clean wrinkles with as long as there is no sores.
Is that also safe to use ACV to clean the wrinkles with???


This is what I read:
“1. Sodium benzoate preservative. Many dog owners ask, is sodium benzoate safe for dogs? It’s not. When sodium benzoate and citric acid or ascorbic acid (vitamin C) are mixed together they may become benzene – a cancer-causing chemical associated with leukemia and other blood disorders.”
 

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I also read you can use Apple Cider Vinegar diluted and put it on cotton pad and use that to clean wrinkles with as long as there is no sores.
Is that also safe to use ACV to clean the wrinkles with???
I would not recommend this, @Bulldog2001. While Witch Hazel is generally safe, using ACV could potentially exacerbate existing sores or even contribute to the formation of new ones.

Bear in mind that you can often find correlations between various substances and health issues like cancer if you look hard enough online. However, the key is moderation. Excessive quantities of almost anything can pose risks. Poly·epsilon·lysine is generally considered safe. There are no actual studies on its effects on animals because it is generally considered safe and so there is no rea$on to test it. Eventually someone will write a blog about how it caused their goldfish to get cancer.
 

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Ok thank you.
I did google as much as I can on it and it says it’s a good grade preservative that is made from a amino acid. Even if it’s not 1000% safe, I think it’s the safest out of all the witch hazels.

I seen 1 brand alcohol free(I would rather not have any alcohol ingredients in the stuff I use on my dogs), and the 1 brand uses Benzoic acid(another form of sodium benzoate) and that ingredient can cause cancer in dogs, so I avoid it.
My dog is also allergic to many preservatives.

I did clean his wrinkles for the first time with that witch Hazel(the one I was asking about) on the cotton pads.

I also read you can use Apple Cider Vinegar diluted and put it on cotton pad and use that to clean wrinkles with as long as there is no sores.
Is that also safe to use ACV to clean the wrinkles with???


This is what I read:
“1. Sodium benzoate preservative. Many dog owners ask, is sodium benzoate safe for dogs? It’s not. When sodium benzoate and citric acid or ascorbic acid (vitamin C) are mixed together they may become benzene – a cancer-causing chemical associated with leukemia and other blood disorders.”
I would not use AVC on face folds... it will burn/sting if any sore is open.
 

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Thank you @2BullyMama and @benny

That’s why I ask because when I was told to try ACV to clean wrinkles as long as no current sores, I thought it was odd and didn’t think it’s a good idea, for why I asked on here. I will definitely NOT use it for his wrinkles! I will be using the witch Hazel.

@benny

I didn't see anything on that preservative and cancer, it was Benzoic acid/sodium Benzoate that has been linked to cancer. I do research on as much things i can if I’m unsure/unfamiliar with the ingredient, IF it has any possibility to cause harm or cancer Etc, even in the smallest amounts, I will Not use it(if it can be avoided).

Same with Dermachlor 4 shampoo, all chemicals and most ingredients cause health issues that have been linked to cancer, organ issues and everything, now I ‘think’ I have found a safe natural alternative that does the same antibacterial antifungal antiseptic etc, that’s natural and no harmful ingredients in it.

I will see if this good natural shampoo works as good as the Dermachlor 4 shampoo for healing the stress hives and keeping them at bay for preventing new skin infections!! But if I can avoid these chemicals, great that’s what I want for my dogs.
Even these little things that ‘may’ cause cancer or health issues that they are linked to , avoiding them in the first place is better than potentially causing cancer and other health issues in my opinion.


Same goes for food, anything that’s high pesticide food ingredients, I avoid.

Rice for example is high in Arsenic and other heavy metals and can be causing inflammation- if it can cause inflammation it can cause any health issues(allergies, cancer, every organ disease from inflammation) and can cause leaky gut which = all health issues.

Thats why raw is best cause you can avoid all those ingredients.

If health issues can be avoided and managed and better quality life then that’s what matters if that means avoid these ingredients, then I just avoid as a preventative for my dogs health to keep them healthy.
 
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