Rosie started having seizures today! Help!!!

kazzy220

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[MENTION=2156]Rosiesmom[/MENTION] From the description, I agree with alot of people on here, that it sounds more like idiopathic head tremors. They are very common in bulldogs and I'm astounded that your vet doesn't know what one is when it's right there in front of them!!!! I suggest another vet could be something to look into!!!

Nobody really knows for sure what actually causes a head tremor ... there are some who feel it is linked to low blood sugar, and there are those of us who have experienced it when the bully becomes over-stimulated. [MENTION=900]KMARINO[/MENTION] had this with Vegas when he wanted his stinky toy!!! With Maggie it's when she thinks she's going to get a treat. I'm posting a link to the video that I made ... I'm asking her if she wants a baby carrot. I've stopped asking her if she wants a treat now, and I just give it to her instead. However, I can still be in the kitchen making dinner and look round to find Maggie sat behind me shaking her head like this because she's decided that she's gonna get something!!!

YouTube - Maggie

Let me know if this is what Rosie was doing .. if it was then I'd put my money on it being a head tremor and unfortunately there's nothing you can do about them!!
 

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We too have experienced Head Tremors.. and it is frightening! We too thought it was seizures, but after testing, and many opinions - we learned that it was indeed head tremors.
We were also told that it could be low blood sugar or a calcium deficiency. We tried to give Otis some sugar when the tremors would start.. That didn't work... Then we started him on Tums.. for the calcium, and that didn't work. We now give him 1/4 cup of cottage cheese every morning with his breakfast, and that seems to be doing the trick. He was having tremors that would last for 8-17 minutes, and he was fully aware of what was going on.. and would come out of it and continue playing. Now if he has a tremor (which is RARE), it lasts less than a minute or two at the most. And it mostly happens when he lays on his right side. I'm also very very diligent about keeping his ears clean too. Not sure if wax build up in the ear causes pressure or not, but I would rather be safe and just keep them clean.
I hope it helps to know that you're not alone... I was terrified when they started, so I know just how scared you are right now... Keep us posted!!
:hug:
 
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[MENTION=2156]Rosiesmom[/MENTION] From the description, I agree with alot of people on here, that it sounds more like idiopathic head tremors. They are very common in bulldogs and I'm astounded that your vet doesn't know what one is when it's right there in front of them!!!! I suggest another vet could be something to look into!!!

Nobody really knows for sure what actually causes a head tremor ... there are some who feel it is linked to low blood sugar, and there are those of us who have experienced it when the bully becomes over-stimulated. [MENTION=900]KMARINO[/MENTION] had this with Vegas when he wanted his stinky toy!!! With Maggie it's when she thinks she's going to get a treat. I'm posting a link to the video that I made ... I'm asking her if she wants a baby carrot. I've stopped asking her if she wants a treat now, and I just give it to her instead. However, I can still be in the kitchen making dinner and look round to find Maggie sat behind me shaking her head like this because she's decided that she's gonna get something!!!

YouTube - Maggie

Let me know if this is what Rosie was doing .. if it was then I'd put my money on it being a head tremor and unfortunately there's nothing you can do about them!!

YES!!! That is EXACTLY what Rosie is doing! Oh my gosh I hate that Maggie has it too, but I feel MUCH better seeing her doing the same thing and knowing that she is okay! I am definately looking into a different vet now. This is unacceptable. They never once mentioned this condition, and they saw her doing it!! Part of me is happy that she doesn't have seizures, but the other part of me is angry that the vet wanted to dope her up on meds! After reading everyones posts on here and googling this condition I feel like the vet should have some knowledge about this.
 

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I have not personally experienced this but do know of other EB owners who have.. I wish you the best of luck and sending you lots of love and good thoughts!! :hug2:
 

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[MENTION=2156]Rosiesmom[/MENTION]
Suggestion. Use your video camera and take video of both kazzy220 video about head tremors and my video with seizures. If they do not have access to the internet...this might be a learning tool for them. Or, if they do..create a youtube account and save both our videos to yours and make them watch them during your visit. Nothing could hurt from them learning. If they are not experienced...they were following protocol. That is exactly what they did for Vegas. They did blood work to check his blood sugar (I'm diabetic and I've had seizures from low blood sugar) They tested white cell count and a bunch of other stuff. They loaded him up on Valium (which worked because he was having seizures) and they monitored him for the rest of the night. Vegas was 10 months old.

You might want to find a doctor who has dealt with bulldogs. If you find a specialist...they are sure to be familiar with the head tremors. good luck and keep us posted!
 
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I have not personally experienced this but do know of other EB owners who have.. I wish you the best of luck and sending you lots of love and good thoughts!! :hug2:
Thankyou so much!!
 
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We too have experienced Head Tremors.. and it is frightening! We too thought it was seizures, but after testing, and many opinions - we learned that it was indeed head tremors.
We were also told that it could be low blood sugar or a calcium deficiency. We tried to give Otis some sugar when the tremors would start.. That didn't work... Then we started him on Tums.. for the calcium, and that didn't work. We now give him 1/4 cup of cottage cheese every morning with his breakfast, and that seems to be doing the trick. He was having tremors that would last for 8-17 minutes, and he was fully aware of what was going on.. and would come out of it and continue playing. Now if he has a tremor (which is RARE), it lasts less than a minute or two at the most. And it mostly happens when he lays on his right side. I'm also very very diligent about keeping his ears clean too. Not sure if wax build up in the ear causes pressure or not, but I would rather be safe and just keep them clean.
I hope it helps to know that you're not alone... I was terrified when they started, so I know just how scared you are right now... Keep us posted!!
:hug:
Thankyou for the wonderful advice. I'm going to get her cottage cheese on my way home today. If Otis has another tremor what do you do? I feel so helpless just sitting there petting her and talking to her. I just wish I could make it all better. I was just as scared going through this as I was when my son had his first asthma attack. Scared the :poo: out of me!!
 
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Rosie update-just called Rosie's babsitter (my mother-in-law) and she hasn't had any episodes today. She was sitting in the backyard watching the ducks swim. She said she seemed very happy, but still hasn't slept. Poor thing tossed and turned all night so I know she must be pooped.
 

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What is the feeding schedule? If you feed once a day, perhaps do it twice. If you do it twice, maybe try 3 times? This may make the blood sugar levels more stable.
 

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Like everyone has said they definitely sound like head tremors. I was hysterical when Samson had his first one but lucky for me when I called my vet they knew what I was talking about and said they were head tremors. The vet told me he was fine but to be concerned if it started affecting his entire body or seemed to worsen but it never did. Just ever effects his head like he is shaking his head no, he can give kisses, walk, jump, give me the paw, everything, his head is just shaking. I still scheduled an appointment after the first episode and had a thorough exam done, blood testing, parasite testing, the whole deal but he was perfectly healthy and that put my mind at ease. Now this is a heavily debated subject as to what causes them, from my own personal experiences I don't feel that this is a blood sugar issue, just my opinion though. So now when Samson gets one I just let it run it's course and it always happens for a minute or so then stops.
 

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I agree with what [MENTION=574]TessaAndSamson[/MENTION] said .. with Maggie it's not blood sugar levels. It's when she gets over stimulated - it was the same for [MENTION=900]KMARINO[/MENTION].

I guess the trick is to find out what seems to "trigger" it if you can, and then avoid that. If there seems to be no trigger, then I would just stay calm whilst it happens and try to re-direct their attention on to something else. For some reason that often snaps them out of it.
 
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What is the feeding schedule? If you feed once a day, perhaps do it twice. If you do it twice, maybe try 3 times? This may make the blood sugar levels more stable.
My husband feeds her at 6:00 am and I feed her around 6:00 pm. If I feed her three times, I should probably cut down on the amount right? She's 70# but she's not fat. Shes just very solid.
 

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It's very scary the first time they have head tremors. Our first bully Cass had them and I rushed her to the vet..they wanted to give her epilepsy meds. I ran across another bully forum and it was pretty common for them to have low blood sugar and get head tremors. I would give Cass a half a granola bar and they would go away. My vet knew nothing about low blood sugar in bullies. Hope your baby is ok and all it is is low blood sugar. :heart: Better to be safe than sorry .
 

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my dog samson just had a full out seizure at 2;30pm to day on his bak legs up stiff as a board. i thought he was choking and about to die. i held him wile he just stared up at me then wile i was feeling his neck for something jamed in their he just went bak to normal. lasted about 4 min. he was off balance at first now he is just fine. hes 3 and has never had this happen. hope he will not do it again.
 

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