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    Ok please see other thread about Duke's bowels and having a little blood in stool and loose bowels since last night. the actual vet just called me at work.. we just switched him over to Nature's variety instinct beef formula. Duke has been on Dick van Patten duck and potatoe limited ingredient diet for over a year now and still has to take a very low dose steriod every other day to keep allergies at bay. He was completely tested and has NO food allergies , he is allergic to mold and wool. SO after alot of research and peoples suggestions I decided to switch him to this food in hopes to increase his immune system and get him off potatoe which alot of people causes itchies?

    he just told me to put him back on the duck and potatoe. he feels his GI track is irriated from the beef??

    I just don't know what to do ?? any thoughts? He has never had a problem with his bowels. I thought maybe i was feeding him too much of the new food.

    I appreciate your input here..

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    Default Re: completely frustrated any suggestions ?

    Your vet could be correct. He could also be wrong. There is no way of telling but as I said before, it doesn't sound like Duke's poops are a result of the diet because I think there would've been warning signs since he's been eating NVI for 6 days.

    If your vet didn't perform a fecal to check for parasites or anything, then he doesn't really know but some foods can be rough on the puppy's digestive tract.

    I would feed him bland diet until you get a normal stood. Once you get a normal stood, feed half bland and half NVI. If you see more diarrhea, I would go to the vet and revisit the idea of a fecal exam and another diet change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheshistory View Post
    Your vet could be correct. He could also be wrong. There is no way of telling but as I said before, it doesn't sound like Duke's poops are a result of the diet because I think there would've been warning signs since he's been eating NVI for 6 days.

    If your vet didn't perform a fecal to check for parasites or anything, then he doesn't really know but some foods can be rough on the puppy's digestive tract.

    I would feed him bland diet until you get a normal stood. Once you get a normal stood, feed half bland and half NVI. If you see more diarrhea, I would go to the vet and revisit the idea of a fecal exam and another diet change.
    Ok thank you .. can you tell me what exactly is in a bland diet? I had read this meant boiled chicken and rice , then I also read to fast them for 24 hours? someone else told me to give him a little pumpkin?

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    Click on the word bland diet and it will give you lots of info - you should not feed him until the diarrhea stops then start him on bland diet. I feed one cup twice per day. Do not put anything on it (my opinion) until you get a firm stool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheshistory View Post
    Click on the word bland diet and it will give you lots of info - you should not feed him until the diarrhea stops then start him on bland diet. I feed one cup twice per day. Do not put anything on it (my opinion) until you get a firm stool.
    thank you , you have been a really big help. not to sound completely stupid but he has soft mushy stools now.. not diarrhea so would it be ok to feed him the bland diet starting tonight? his bowels this am were 1/2 normal and half mush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuke View Post
    thank you , you have been a really big help. not to sound completely stupid but he has soft mushy stools now.. not diarrhea so would it be ok to feed him the bland diet starting tonight? his bowels this am were 1/2 normal and half mush?
    I would wait for him to empty out completely - so maybe skip a meal and let his GI tract rest. Once he's empty, start the bland diet and see how he does from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheshistory View Post
    I would wait for him to empty out completely - so maybe skip a meal and let his GI tract rest. Once he's empty, start the bland diet and see how he does from there.
    ok will do .. poor duke he is not going to be a happy camper tonight

    thanks so much again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuke View Post
    ok will do .. poor duke he is not going to be a happy camper tonight

    thanks so much again!
    I know it's so hard not to feed them but I try think of it this way - if I had a bad stomach, would I keep on eating or let it settle down?

    Let us know how he does!

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    Aww poor baby hope his tummy gets better soon. Lucy loves bland diet so he should be a happy bunny tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy-licious! View Post
    Aww poor baby hope his tummy gets better soon. Lucy loves bland diet so he should be a happy bunny tomorrow
    thanks so much !

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    Oh man..I just got here..poor duke..no dinner. I didn't click on bland diet..assuming it includes rice and chicken?? If you boil rice..save the water and use this to moisten rice..I had to do this with Jake for a week..I saved the water I boiled chicken and rice in..ended up not giving him any chicken. Whole step process..but it did work!!

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    Default Re: completely frustrated any suggestions ?

    I definitely agree with putting him on the bland diet. If he is anything like Samson he could just get an upset tummy from time to time. Samson went thru a period of several days of having loose stool a couple weeks ago. I gave him the bland diet for several days and it cleared him right up. The bland diet that my vet suggested when Samson was having tummy issues once was one part boiled chicken or ground beef to one part white rice with a couple spoons fulls of cottage cheese. Hope Duke feels better soon! And regarding how much you should feed of the NVI versus Natural Balance, Duke will need less of the NVI kibble than he did Natural Balance. My Samson was on the Natural Balance Sweet Potato and Salmon before I switched to NVI salmon, I had to cut the kibble amount down when I switched. NVI has alot more protein than Natural Balance, the more protein the less kibble he will need. I fed Samson 1 cup twice a day of the Natural Balance and went down to 3/4 cup twice a day of the NVI.
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