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    Default Re: completely frustrated any suggestions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuke View Post
    wow can not tell you how much I appreciate all of this.. got home and he did have soft poop again and he threw up a little more bile. but he is acting fine. I sat on my sofa and cried my eyes out because I felt like I did this by changing his food ( like I said he has never been sick in the 3 years we have had him).. the right side of my brain knows from the research I did that the food I was trying was so much better for him but the left side ( the over sensitive knuckle head ) was kicking myself. so thank you thank you.. I will do exactly as said .. ironically this is what the vet told me today.. he said " I am 99 % sure this has happened because it was just too much too soon and a huge change.

    I am so sorry to be a pest but when I do start to introduce it again would I stick with the beef flavor? or do you suggest trying something different? from all the tests done he has no allergies to beef?

    thank you so much again for taking the time to send me this info!
    I would continue with the beef. I don't see any reason not to. No matter which food you choose there will be a huge variation compared to a limited ingredient diet. Once you get him settled in to this diet, you should be able to change foods more freely.

    Jesse used to have a hard time when I changed her food. But ever since we got on good kibble, I can change in just a few days even if it is completely different brands. It used to TEAR her up when I changed foods. But we did go from Iams, to AvoDerm, to Royal Canine, and finally on NVI, Nature's Logic or Fromm and once we got there she has no troubles. The other 4 bullies did fine with the changes at the same pace, but not Jesse.

    On another note, don't EVER feel bad about wanting to do what is best for your bully. Sometimes as they say.... &*$% happens and it is what you do when faced with the problem that is what is the big picture. I think you getting off of that diet is the best choice you have made so far, but sometimes it takes time to find the right one. Normally a week change is enough, but sometimes it can be too much. In this case the dog foods are sooooo different!
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    ok people I really need a drink now.. from my last post until now Duke really started vomiting a lot of bile and every 1/2 hour so hubby and I took him to the ER..and so glad I did but must tell you am really a wreck..
    first of all they agree 100 % with desertskybulldogs suggestions.. but were glad we brought him in. they told us that the difference in the two food were soooooo dramatic and Dukes digestive system could not handle. ( aren't you guys glad I joined the forum!! ) all joking aside maybe we can use this horrible experience to help others changing over to a new food.
    they gave him two needles to help him stop vomitting.. Cerenia an famotidine.. and sent us home with antibiotics and also proviable to help with the transition to the new food.
    he is so sick I feel TERRIBLE, before I took him he couldn't even lay down he was so uncomfortable.

    In any case no food OR water for 24 hours. they gave him fluid therapy ( under the skin ).. they told me tomorrow I can give him 1/4 cup of water every hour then start the bland diet tomorrow evening. BUT if he vomits tomorrow we have to bring him back and they will admit him to do further test.. they said if he is still vomiting tomorrow he could have eaten something that is blocking his system up ( but they do not feel this is the case )..

    so we drive home ( about a 40 minute ride ) and he gets out of the car and throws up a little .. called they said it could be from the car ride and see how the night goes..

    please please pray this works..I am a total wreck here in Philadelphia.

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    Omg Karen..how scary for you all. Here I have been thinking things would settle down. Thank god you took him right away. I can't believe how hard tis has been. Please know we are thinking positive thoughts and will keep checking in..love to duke..

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    UPDATE: if you read a few replies prior we had Duke at the ER last night. He began to vomit badly and we were very concerned. Took him there. they gave him two shots to help him calm his belly and stop vomiting.. came home and told us to give him antibiotics and another med ( see previous thread ).. ANYWAY he finally fell asleep at 230 am slept til 9 am got up out in the yard more diarrhea then.............................. now sit down.. he passed the head of a toy he ate over a month ago!!!!!!!!!!! I called the vet hospital right away and they were GLAD also said if they would have xrayed him last night he would have been in surgery.. Right after he passed the toy he RAN through the yard and back into the house like the past 3 days never happened!!!

    I am beyond blown away by this entire happening.. the vet still thinks the food may have irritated the situation?? Duke has only eaten a toy one other time and thrown it up so this was just a nightmare! he never gets toys anymore and I am just so thankful he did not have an obstruction. its amazing to me.. I was in contact with his primary vet, dermatologist ( who I really like and trust ) and the ER hospital ( who is one of the best in the state ) and yet everyone thought it was the food. funny thing is as much as I agree i switched him over maybe a little too quickly I knew deep down last night something was really wrong. he couldn't get comfortable and I was thinking the worst.

    I hope in some way my crazy story helps others... I normally am a pretty together calm person but I feel like a FRUITLOOP these past two days!

    the vet wants us to restart the bland diet again this evening.. ( after 7) with small amounts of water.. then after one week very very slowly try the new food again.

    thanks everyone!

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    Whew - I'm so glad the mystery has been solved!

    The EXACT same thing happened to my pup Truman a few months back, I should've mentioned or thought of this! Truman ingested part of a rope bone and was exhibiting the same signs as Baby Duke like the violent diarrhea and vomiting until he finally threw the darn thing up.

    In my experience, Truman was still kind of out of sorts and threw up some water after he expelled the part of the toy he ate, which is probably why the vet said no eating or anything for now. Hopefully the bland diet will help get things back on track and you will be able to get Duke back on his new diet when he's better.

    Well, I am not happy that Duke was sick or that he had a toy sitting in his tummy but it's good that you know what it was since there were a lot of variables at work there for a while!

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    hello!! hope your baby duke is doing better..
    my bulldog used to have soft stool problems with royal canin - BULLDOG!!! I switched to Blue Buffalo BASIC and he is doing much better and helps a lot with his allergies... if you NVI food doesnt work maybe you can try that, but if there is more blood that is not a good sign maybe try another vet.
    keep us informed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheshistory View Post
    Whew - I'm so glad the mystery has been solved!

    The EXACT same thing happened to my pup Truman a few months back, I should've mentioned or thought of this! Truman ingested part of a rope bone and was exhibiting the same signs as Baby Duke like the violent diarrhea and vomiting until he finally threw the darn thing up.

    In my experience, Truman was still kind of out of sorts and threw up some water after he expelled the part of the toy he ate, which is probably why the vet said no eating or anything for now. Hopefully the bland diet will help get things back on track and you will be able to get Duke back on his new diet when he's better.

    Well, I am not happy that Duke was sick or that he had a toy sitting in his tummy but it's good that you know what it was since there were a lot of variables at work there for a while!
    thank you so much for all of your help with this nightmare! as horrible as it was I do feel relieved.. poor thing is so hungry I feel mean but going to follow doctors orders.. thanks again!

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    I am so glad Duke is fine after such a traumatic few days
    I would have flipped out big time too had that been Lucy I am glad the worst bit is over and you can spend the next week or so resting his system before changing food
    so what food are you palnning to go with @BabyDuke? back to NVI beef or are you gonna try something different?

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    So relieved @BabyDuke..sooooo. Does duke have any more toys with heads on them? Had to run errands this morning and after hearing your story..I took up all toys that could be eatable!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy-licious! View Post
    I am so glad Duke is fine after such a traumatic few days
    I would have flipped out big time too had that been Lucy I am glad the worst bit is over and you can spend the next week or so resting his system before changing food
    so what food are you palnning to go with @BabyDuke? back to NVI beef or are you gonna try something different?
    I hope you all don't think I am crazy but I am going to do the bland diet for a full week and then reintroduce the NVI again VERY slowly? I just believe after the research I did and all the info on this site that it is so much better for Duke.. I hope I am doing the right thing... My goal with even beginning to switch was to get him off the low dose steriod he takes every other day. the vet at the ER agreed with my thinking last night.. can't tell you I am so exhausted from all of this.. feels like I got hit by a car.. but the worst is over.. its so nice to see him comfortable, last night he couldn't even lay down.. it was so sad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEISGREAT View Post
    So relieved @BabyDuke..sooooo. Does duke have any more toys with heads on them? Had to run errands this morning and after hearing your story..I took up all toys that could be eatable!!
    He ate this thing a month ago and when my husband realized it we threw out everything.. he only has nyla bones ( with supervision ) and really hard balls. ( that are way to big to fit in his mouth)!

    the funny thing is .. Duke never was a chewer or one to eat things.. that is why I hope someone reads this horrible thread and is extra careful with their dogs.. it only takes one time for them to swallow something!

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    Yes..a lesson for us all..and that's what this forum Is really for..I am so glad he is ok.

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