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    Hello!
    New to this lovely forum and i am hoping to find someone who has gone through what we have just gone through.

    Quick introduction..

    Dounette - English Bulldog (born in France, living with me in France)
    Ex-breeding bitch - i got her at 5 years old
    She is now 10 years old
    Diet for last 5 years : grain free, high protein, good quality dry food - CARNILOVE

    No health issues for past 5 years !

    2 months ago, she started accidents in the house, vet did blood test = nothing abnormal
    Second vet visit, urine test = nothing abnormal

    Third vet visit with a specialist clinic with French supervet.

    Bloods, urine test, echo, xray = bladder stones!

    The same day, one bladder stone got stuck and she stopped peeing so emergency surgery.

    We are now 5 days after surgery and she has come home.. yay!!!

    20 stones were removed and the vet and lab have said CYSTINES.

    So, there is a genetic factor involved.

    The vet has told me to carry on with my food until next week where we will talk about food, but, he is going to put me on to HILLS urinary care, and i honestly do not want this as it is full of cereals, which will bring back all of her skin, ear, eye issues etc and at 10 years old, she is amazing otherwise!! I do believe this is due to her diet, but concerned the high protein diet (38%), is now too high for her.

    So, i am investigating other better quality foods with low protein.. after hours of searching i have found your website, so I am hoping someone will be able to share their experience and what food alternatives there are to Hills..

    Thank you!!!!!!-dunette-copy-jpg-dunette-2-jpg

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    I can think of one male dog here who has this problem. @CHUNKyWhite He is probably at work, but should be here later. He can tell you what he is feeding Chunky. High protein diets are not good, I believe. There may be someone here before long who can help. There must be a home cook diet also.
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    @Cbrugs @RiiSi

    Both these members also had male bulldog with stones but I'm sure they can give some insight


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    Louie never had stones but he does have cystinuria. Cystinuria usually affects mature, intact males as it is testosterone driven. Louie just turned 1 years old on February 18 and I had him neutered in January so he should *not* develop stones. I feed Louie Zignatur kibble in the am and raw in the pm. @CHUNKywhite dealt with stones and surgery and I believe he feeds Zignature kibble. I am sure he will come along and respond in greater depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraDoune View Post
    Hello!
    New to this lovely forum and i am hoping to find someone who has gone through what we have just gone through.

    Quick introduction..

    Dounette - English Bulldog (born in France, living with me in France)
    Ex-breeding bitch - i got her at 5 years old
    She is now 10 years old
    Diet for last 5 years : grain free, high protein, good quality dry food - CARNILOVE

    No health issues for past 5 years !

    2 months ago, she started accidents in the house, vet did blood test = nothing abnormal
    Second vet visit, urine test = nothing abnormal

    Third vet visit with a specialist clinic with French supervet.

    Bloods, urine test, echo, xray = bladder stones!

    The same day, one bladder stone got stuck and she stopped peeing so emergency surgery.

    We are now 5 days after surgery and she has come home.. yay!!!

    20 stones were removed and the vet and lab have said CYSTINES.

    So, there is a genetic factor involved.

    The vet has told me to carry on with my food until next week where we will talk about food, but, he is going to put me on to HILLS urinary care, and i honestly do not want this as it is full of cereals, which will bring back all of her skin, ear, eye issues etc and at 10 years old, she is amazing otherwise!! I do believe this is due to her diet, but concerned the high protein diet (38%), is now too high for her.

    So, i am investigating other better quality foods with low protein.. after hours of searching i have found your website, so I am hoping someone will be able to share their experience and what food alternatives there are to Hills..

    Thank you!!!!!!-dunette-copy-jpg-dunette-2-jpg
    Hello there. Welcome!
    I would definitely go with home cooking. Nyala when she was a pup had struvite crystals but no stones. Immediately I went with home cooking and all stopped within a week or so. Caught it on time. You can control your protein portions if needed.

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    My bully had urate stones, but with cystines it's also important to keep the protein level moderate, but not too low and alkalize the urine. I would go for home cooked food and check her urine pH regularly and keep it at 7-7,5. Lots of water and opportunities to pee. There's some info about the stones and great recipies for home cooking. DogAware.com Articles: Urate, Cystine and Less Common Urinary Stones

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