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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphne DuMaurier View Post
    What airline did you use? We generally use BA for ourselves, but am thinking of taking Daphne this year. We thought about doing a transAtlantic crossing on Cunard. They have kennels and we could do a seven day crossing.


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    Going over we used BA. We had two cats, a dog (not a bulldog) and a parrot. It cost a fortune! Several years later on the way back we now had Chumly. We had lost our dog to old age and the two cats to cancer within 3 months of each other. The parrot we took to a parrot sanctuary and I hope he is still as happy as a lark! If I knew then, what I know now, I would never have flown Chumly. It was the trip from hell and everything that could go wrong, did. We were paying for everything ourselves (household goods etc.) and money was an issue so I went with KLM as it was about 1/4 of the price. I will say it wasn't all KLM's fault as such. We were delayed leaving Heathrow so there was not time for him to go to the pet hotel in Amsterdam as planned. Then we had the worst landing I have ever experienced flying and all I could think about was my poor boy in the hold. Because we were delayed, Chumly did not get any potty break from his kennel. I asked where he was and was told "don't worry, he is fine". This happened another couple of times so of course, I hit the roof! Then I had two managers and one other person running all over the holding area checking on my dog. They had given him water and under threat of death, swore to me he was fine. I had checked the weather for several days as I did not want to land in the TX heat but sods law, the day we traveled it shot up and it was over 90 when we landed. Dogs in the hold were supposed to be off loaded first but I watched and it was 1/2 an hour before they got them out of there. He was in his crate 17 hours. Once I saw him in customs I thought we were headed straight to the emergency vet. He was so stressed out, soaking wet from slobber etc and huddled as far in the corner of his crate he could get. He wouldn't look at me at all. Luckily customs were quick and as soon as we got him in the car, he started to calm down. I have never been so scared for my dog before. DO NOT fly a brachycephalic dog unless you absolutely have to. For a vacation, there is no way I would risk it. You just don't know what is going to happen. I have been told (and do not know this for sure) that there is a years waiting list at least for going by boat as kennels are limited. I would have waited that year if I had known how Chumly was going to suffer. There are too many horror stories and some airlines refuse to fly short nosed dogs at all because the risk is that much greater. If you cannot go by boat then I would leave her at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    Going over we used BA. We had two cats, a dog (not a bulldog) and a parrot. It cost a fortune! Several years later on the way back we now had Chumly. We had lost our dog to old age and the two cats to cancer within 3 months of each other. The parrot we took to a parrot sanctuary and I hope he is still as happy as a lark! If I knew then, what I know now, I would never have flown Chumly. It was the trip from hell and everything that could go wrong, did. We were paying for everything ourselves (household goods etc.) and money was an issue so I went with KLM as it was about 1/4 of the price. I will say it wasn't all KLM's fault as such. We were delayed leaving Heathrow so there was not time for him to go to the pet hotel in Amsterdam as planned. Then we had the worst landing I have ever experienced flying and all I could think about was my poor boy in the hold. Because we were delayed, Chumly did not get any potty break from his kennel. I asked where he was and was told "don't worry, he is fine". This happened another couple of times so of course, I hit the roof! Then I had two managers and one other person running all over the holding area checking on my dog. They had given him water and under threat of death, swore to me he was fine. I had checked the weather for several days as I did not want to land in the TX heat but sods law, the day we traveled it shot up and it was over 90 when we landed. Dogs in the hold were supposed to be off loaded first but I watched and it was 1/2 an hour before they got them out of there. He was in his crate 17 hours. Once I saw him in customs I thought we were headed straight to the emergency vet. He was so stressed out, soaking wet from slobber etc and huddled as far in the corner of his crate he could get. He wouldn't look at me at all. Luckily customs were quick and as soon as we got him in the car, he started to calm down. I have never been so scared for my dog before. DO NOT fly a brachycephalic dog unless you absolutely have to. For a vacation, there is no way I would risk it. You just don't know what is going to happen. I have been told (and do not know this for sure) that there is a years waiting list at least for going by boat as kennels are limited. I would have waited that year if I had known how Chumly was going to suffer. There are too many horror stories and some airlines refuse to fly short nosed dogs at all because the risk is that much greater. If you cannot go by boat then I would leave her at home.
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    @1Chumly reminds me when I was in Montreal and my eldest was here in Alberta. His gf wanted me to bring her dog to the airport so she can have her dog with her in Alberta. Ok...get ready at 3am!!!! The friend brings me the dog and I leave with the dog to the airport. The flight, kennel everything was paid for in advance. I just had to bring the dog and give him a pill. Get to the airport, this bozo behind the desk says, you dont have a blanket? Errr no so go back in the car get a blanket. 800 $ you would think they would give one for the dog. But, true make sense. Then he says, your kennel is too small the dog, ears touches the top. I bend down looked and the ears were barely touching. I look at him like are you kidding me!!! Said the ears are supposed to be 2" free. Well, poor guy probably wished he should of shut up. I can take a lot but dont be a damm jerk as I will put you to your place fast. Enough its not even my dog, get up driving at 3am to an airport, get a blanket, get a speech for ears barely touching the top of the kennel, pop a pill to the poor dog which he didn't want. I look at him and asked him if his mother ever dropped him on his head and what dog will stand up through a 5hr flight after taking a pill in the cargo where they will be freezing and scare Sh*t???? He never answered. Lollll I left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    Going over we used BA. We had two cats, a dog (not a bulldog) and a parrot. It cost a fortune! Several years later on the way back we now had Chumly. We had lost our dog to old age and the two cats to cancer within 3 months of each other. The parrot we took to a parrot sanctuary and I hope he is still as happy as a lark! If I knew then, what I know now, I would never have flown Chumly. It was the trip from hell and everything that could go wrong, did. We were paying for everything ourselves (household goods etc.) and money was an issue so I went with KLM as it was about 1/4 of the price. I will say it wasn't all KLM's fault as such. We were delayed leaving Heathrow so there was not time for him to go to the pet hotel in Amsterdam as planned. Then we had the worst landing I have ever experienced flying and all I could think about was my poor boy in the hold. Because we were delayed, Chumly did not get any potty break from his kennel. I asked where he was and was told "don't worry, he is fine". This happened another couple of times so of course, I hit the roof! Then I had two managers and one other person running all over the holding area checking on my dog. They had given him water and under threat of death, swore to me he was fine. I had checked the weather for several days as I did not want to land in the TX heat but sods law, the day we traveled it shot up and it was over 90 when we landed. Dogs in the hold were supposed to be off loaded first but I watched and it was 1/2 an hour before they got them out of there. He was in his crate 17 hours. Once I saw him in customs I thought we were headed straight to the emergency vet. He was so stressed out, soaking wet from slobber etc and huddled as far in the corner of his crate he could get. He wouldn't look at me at all. Luckily customs were quick and as soon as we got him in the car, he started to calm down. I have never been so scared for my dog before. DO NOT fly a brachycephalic dog unless you absolutely have to. For a vacation, there is no way I would risk it. You just don't know what is going to happen. I have been told (and do not know this for sure) that there is a years waiting list at least for going by boat as kennels are limited. I would have waited that year if I had known how Chumly was going to suffer. There are too many horror stories and some airlines refuse to fly short nosed dogs at all because the risk is that much greater. If you cannot go by boat then I would leave her at home.
    I once flew my SharPei from Florida to my parents home in Canada. It wasn't a particularly long trip nor full of problems, but she was a very sensitive dog and was very traumatized. So much in fact that my father insisted that I let him rent a car for me to drive her the 1500 miles back to my home in Florida.

    I have read that Air France will let dogs fly in the cabin, but I imagine a bully wouldn't qualify. We were thinking of spending 2 or 3 months in UK this year. I'd hate to be separated from Daphne that long, but it's got to be about what's best for her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphne DuMaurier View Post
    I once flew my SharPei from Florida to my parents home in Canada. It wasn't a particularly long trip nor full of problems, but she was a very sensitive dog and was very traumatized. So much in fact that my father insisted that I let him rent a car for me to drive her the 1500 miles back to my home in Florida.

    I have read that Air France will let dogs fly in the cabin, but I imagine a bully wouldn't qualify. We were thinking of spending 2 or 3 months in UK this year. I'd hate to be separated from Daphne that long, but it's got to be about what's best for her.


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    It may have changed since I flew but the Pet Passport rules then did not allow any dogs to be flown in the cabin (WHY?). As you say, a bully probably wouldn't apply anyway as the carrier has to fit under the seat. It is a problem for sure. It sounds like your only option is Cunard. I checked going on a cargo ship but it wasn't applicable at that time. Worth a search? We have found that the older we get, the less time we like to be away from our pets! Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by helsonwheels View Post
    @1Chumly reminds me when I was in Montreal and my eldest was here in Alberta. His gf wanted me to bring her dog to the airport so she can have her dog with her in Alberta. Ok...get ready at 3am!!!! The friend brings me the dog and I leave with the dog to the airport. The flight, kennel everything was paid for in advance. I just had to bring the dog and give him a pill. Get to the airport, this bozo behind the desk says, you dont have a blanket? Errr no so go back in the car get a blanket. 800 $ you would think they would give one for the dog. But, true make sense. Then he says, your kennel is too small the dog, ears touches the top. I bend down looked and the ears were barely touching. I look at him like are you kidding me!!! Said the ears are supposed to be 2" free. Well, poor guy probably wished he should of shut up. I can take a lot but dont be a damm jerk as I will put you to your place fast. Enough its not even my dog, get up driving at 3am to an airport, get a blanket, get a speech for ears barely touching the top of the kennel, pop a pill to the poor dog which he didn't want. I look at him and asked him if his mother ever dropped him on his head and what dog will stand up through a 5hr flight after taking a pill in the cargo where they will be freezing and scare Sh*t???? He never answered. Lollll I left.
    I feel your pain. When we got to BA to fly home to England they said my dog's crate wasn't tall enough (same as you) and they would not fly her in it. I was paranoid about this flight and had measured all of them very carefully many times. They also said the same about one of my cats. They just happened (!) to have a larger wooden crate my dog could use and I could use her crate for my cat. Naturally that increased the cost quite a bit but at least they could fly.

    I am really surprised they let him fly after giving him a pill. How long ago was this as that has been a huge No-No for some time now? It has proved to be dangerous for the animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    I feel your pain. When we got to BA to fly home to England they said my dog's crate wasn't tall enough (same as you) and they would not fly her in it. I was paranoid about this flight and had measured all of them very carefully many times. They also said the same about one of my cats. They just happened (!) to have a larger wooden crate my dog could use and I could use her crate for my cat. Naturally that increased the cost quite a bit but at least they could fly.

    I am really surprised they let him fly after giving him a pill. How long ago was this as that has been a huge No-No for some time now? It has proved to be dangerous for the animal.
    About 9 yrs ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    It may have changed since I flew but the Pet Passport rules then did not allow any dogs to be flown in the cabin (WHY?). As you say, a bully probably wouldn't apply anyway as the carrier has to fit under the seat. It is a problem for sure. It sounds like your only option is Cunard. I checked going on a cargo ship but it wasn't applicable at that time. Worth a search? We have found that the older we get, the less time we like to be away from our pets! Good luck!
    The French don't generally follow rules...


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    Can't speak to flying in or out of France but animal control in the UK were very strict. The only exception to the rule were certain private carriers. The British always seem to follow the rules when no-one else does!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Chumly View Post
    Can't speak to flying in or out of France but animal control in the UK were very strict. The only exception to the rule were certain private carriers. The British always seem to follow the rules when no-one else does!!!
    I'll try to find a funny photo I took in the Loire Valley a while ago. We were at a chateau, can't remember which one, there was a sign that said, in French, English, German, Spanish, Dutch...Please Keep Off the Grass. There was a large French family spread out on the lawn with a lawn blanket, eating their packed lunches, little kids kicking a ball etc.. Life is often so amusing...


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