To all you yogurt people!

[Hankster]

Yes Theres a nice one at Costco right now...fridge of course

 

[helsonwheels]

Yes Theres a nice one at Costco right now...fridge of course

I saw one at Costco but not in the fridge. Will have to go check out the fridge now lol..thanks!

 

[My Otis]

I have been giving Elmo cottage cheese everyday since he was a puppy, he will be 4 in July. Is cottage cheese ok every day, and what about coconut oil, is this ok for Elmo once a day? Thank You, Susan and Elmo

 

[NewEnglandBully]

I have been giving Elmo cottage cheese everyday since he was a puppy, he will be 4 in July. Is cottage cheese ok every day, and what about coconut oil, is this ok for Elmo once a day? Thank You, Susan and Elmo

Coconut oil is most certainly okay!! Cold pressed, Organic, Extra Virgin types like Kelapo are recommended. The benefits are many, both topically and internally.

 

[helsonwheels]

I have been giving Elmo cottage cheese everyday he was a puppy, he will be 4 in July. Is cottage cheese ok every day, and what about coconut oil, is this ok for Elmo once a day? Thank You, Susan and Elmo

High in calcium and protein! Good stuff. So long a dog doesn't have digesting dairy issues but in your case after 4 yrs..... coconut oil....like mentioned great stuff! Keep doing what you're doing. Btw, love elmo with his red hat. Too fuuny!

 

[NewEnglandBully]

I'm a fan of Stoneyfield (and so is the Bass). It came recommended for it's strains and live cultures and has been vet recommended for helping the gut, especially with puppies that suffer from diarrhea. Stoneyfield and Noosa contain five strains…The AKC has some valuable information on their website regarding probiotics.

 

[helsonwheels]

One more thing I would like to add and im sure a lot have no clue, is that probiotics, they have a difficult time making it from the mouth to the large intestine. Compared to what was swallowed, only a relatively small number of living probiotic organisms reaches the gut. This is where PREbiotics, yes i typed PRE kicks in. You can get it in a fiber powder. I personally like mentioned when I did this thread, yogurt is ok but it's not miracle. Prebiotics are not digested by the human body, but are digested by gut bacteria. For prebiotics, what you eat is what you get. Prebiotics support the growth of healthy bacteria already in the large intestine. So basically probiotics are unnecessary for healthy individuals who consistently take prebiotics. Prebiotics are better than probiotics for most people or pets. Ok that was MY 2 cents. You still can do whatever you want as it's YOUR 2 cents.

 

[NewEnglandBully]

One more thing I would like to add and im sure a lot have no clue, is that probiotics, they have a difficult time making it from the mouth to the large intestine. Compared to what was swallowed, only a relatively small number of living probiotic organisms reaches the gut. This is where PREbiotics, yes i typed PRE kicks in. You can get it in a fiber powder. I personally like mentioned when I did this thread, yogurt is ok but it's not miracle. Prebiotics are not digested by the human body, but are digested by gut bacteria. For prebiotics, what you eat is what you get. Prebiotics support the growth of healthy bacteria already in the large intestine. So basically probiotics are unnecessary for healthy individuals who consistently take prebiotics. Prebiotics are better than probiotics for most people or pets. Ok that was MY 2 cents. You still can do whatever you want as it's YOUR 2 cents.

What foods do you give Nyala to offer pre-biotics? Can you offer some as a topper? The lists I found had mostly foods Bass is not allowed to have...

Also, the medical doctor that was quoted in one of the articles you posted has quite a bit to share about human vaccines… I was following up on her after reading that article (which I wasn't crazy about and felt it was poorly written, the author didn't attach his/her name either and failed to offer any insight from a pasteurization expert, veterinarian and/or scientist)…but I was very interested in what that doctor had to say….nothing relevant to yogurt or bulldogs, lol…but she sure did grab my attention!

One thing I want to add to this thread for anyone doing their own research are the numbers for Stonyfield ...one of the recommended yogurt brands for dogs (bottom of page) …as well as some other information that may be useful.

One source: Dr. Laci Schaible: suggests to offer yogurt, plain - for protein, calcium, phosphorus and beneficial live active cultures. (Her husband is also a vet)


Another source, Dr. Nancy Scanlan and the editors of Whole dog wrote about Probiotics and how they "may help prevent urinary tract infections, and can even reduce allergic reactions by decreasing intestinal permeability and controlling inflammation."

And this article from the editors of The Whole Dog Journal, which has a lot of information (including a section on "benefits of probiotics" as well as a "praise for prebiotics")

http://www.marysdogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/WDJ_Canine_Supplements.pdf


Product: Stonyfield Farm yogurt
Active Ingredient: Lactobacillus bulgaricus, S thermophilus, L acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, L reuteri, Bifidus species
CFU Count per Dose: 10 million/g, combined

 

[helsonwheels]

[MENTION=10681]NewEnglandBully[/MENTION] Nyala eats really a lot of human food. Yes of course "real food". She does eat a lot of rooted veggies where you will find that PREbiotics. I eat chicory root, love dandelions and artichokes like the Jerusalem ones. I juice a lot of my roots and drink it. I know some will go eeewwww... 2x a year i juice all sorts of greens and especially beetroots with the leaves. Avocado, apple cider, peas and others which i do not give her is like onions and soybean. You can buy it in fiber form and add it to the dog food. Nyala right now is on Honest Kitchen the Grain Free one. I cook my own meat. And yes us it as toppers. But I put it straight in the meals. for Pre to work at it's fullest it needs the Pro...both together are powerhouses. Pro is from other cells not from your own body. How im i going to explain this....Probiotics is like you plant a tree or any plant, you need to fertilize it or it will die. So for the Pro to be also active it needs Pre that your own body produces on it's own if you feed your body the proper Prebiotics. Ok all I can think of was a plant hahaha... Here I copy paste this so it might make more sense than my tree lolll

Prebiotics shouldn’t be confused with probiotics (good bacteria for your gut). While probiots help you maintain a healthy digestive tract and prevent gut diseases, prebiotics are nondigestible compounds that help probiotics grow and thrive, so they can continue to keep your gut healthy.

Did that make sense?

 

[NewEnglandBully]

@NewEnglandBully Nyala eats really a lot of human food. Yes of course "real food". She does eat a lot of rooted veggies where you will find that PREbiotics. I eat chicory root, love dandelions and artichokes like the Jerusalem ones. I juice a lot of my roots and drink it. I know some will go eeewwww... 2x a year i juice all sorts of greens and especially beetroots with the leaves. Avocado, apple cider, peas and others which i do not give her is like onions and soybean. You can buy it in fiber form and add it to the dog food. Nyala right now is on Honest Kitchen the Grain Free one. I cook my own meat. And yes us it as toppers. But I put it straight in the meals. for Pre to work at it's fullest it needs the Pro...both together are powerhouses. Pro is from other cells not from your own body. How im i going to explain this....Probiotics is like you plant a tree or any plant, you need to fertilize it or it will die. So for the Pro to be also active it needs Pre that your own body produces on it's own if you feed your body the proper Prebiotics. Ok all I can think of was a plant hahaha... Here I copy paste this so it might make more sense than my tree lolll

Prebiotics shouldn’t be confused with probiotics (good bacteria for your gut). While probiots help you maintain a healthy digestive tract and prevent gut diseases, prebiotics are nondigestible compounds that help probiotics grow and thrive, so they can continue to keep your gut healthy.

Did that make sense?

Oh, I'm very familiar with pre and probiotics…and then some...I have pages and pages of research on the matter. Studying and researching nutrition is one of my biggest hobbies (aside from studying certain state and federal law).

I just wanted to know what you gave Nyala for prebiotics and how her system has reacted to it…I prefer to give synbiotics in food form, I will consider a supplement as he gets older or if we encounter any issues that call for additional supplements. He is on NuVet plus daily.

I have a food journal/notes…for food toppers Bass gets eggs, yogurt (yes, I am one of those "yogurt people" lol) green beans, carrots, and treats such as cod skins and freeze dried liver. Rare occasions tuna, salmon, filet (steak) and very rarely a piece of bacon.

I just recently bought sauerkraut during my last shopping trip and he devoured it…LOVED it. There haven't been any noticable side effects, so I plan to keep it as part of his regimen...I would like to add a few more toppers to A. keep his interest in the kibble he is on right now (he tends to lose interest if he is on a flavor too long and this flavor has worked the best w/his allergies) and B. his metabolism is on the higher end and he cannot seem to pack on a few extra pounds. Not that I want him fat, but he is quite lean. The vet said he is a "perfect" size , but he was down a few pounds last visit.

 

[NewEnglandBully]

@helsonwheels Helene, great post!! My own experience....when Joey was a puppy I wanted to do ALL THE BEST things for her, so.......I read about adding yogurt, well that did not go well, poor thing had loose stools for 3 days, AND it was the nothing added plain yogurt, that's when I learned the pumpkin trick for loose stools

What kind (brand) and how much did you give?

It's definitely not for every dog, I'm just curious for my own knowledge.

I learned the pumpkin trick from here too, it was a HUGE help when we were changing kibbles…I think the total number of kibbles were five and doing a slow transition was torture…especially trying to wait the allotted time and just knowing it wasn't a good fit

I was (and still am) the same as you…wanted to do everything right but then I realized I may be over doing it with my endless worries and needed to relax a bit…I have a very healthy, happy bulldog (knock on wood ) minus some allergy issues...and was driving myself bananas with all the reading and trying to do everything perfect. I think it's completely normal though, it's like being a first time mom…by the time I had number 3 and 4 (and they came together, lol) I was confident in my skills as a parent and I completely trust my pedi. EBN is the equivalent to my children's pediatrician…Like that poll that Jessica posted, unless it's an emergency, I go right here for everything Bass related!!

 

[sisters3]

[MENTION=10681]NewEnglandBully[/MENTION] OMG Laurie we sound EXACTLY the same! I too had to take a step back and realized that everything I was doing was great, evident by Joey's health and happiness When I tried the yogurt it was organic, nothing added, plain Greek yogurt (just maybe a tablespoon), she loved it but.......tummy could not handle it. She would not drink water with the apple cider vinegar either.....AND stopped eating if I put on her food. I was so stressed. I was like "OMG I must do these things or she won't be healthy" I tried following guidelines to the letter, but here we are, Joey will be 2 on May 31st, healthy as can be (thank you God) Her diet is Life's Abundance kibble, 1 cup in am and 1 cup at 5pm, a bit of creamy PB in the morning and nothing at night. She eats no table scraps and no people food. I was a CRAZY person until I stepped back and said.....OK wait, all bulldogs are not created equal, so.......What works for one maybe not the other, I told myself (and Joey) that I would always do my best to take the very best care of her.....I think, for now, we have found our sweet spot. Without the people here I would have been LOST

 

[NewEnglandBully]

I was answering a question to someone in a thread. I am just amazed how many of bully owner believe in giving yogurt to their dogs for probiotics. Yogurts has good probiotics for "human consumption only!" Plus its loaded of sugars. And yes I know the Internet will say yogurts are good to give to dogs but which ones? Often dogs intolerant dairy products. If you really want to give yogurt to your dog, at least use the greek yogurts. Plain...nothing in it! But I have never seen a wolf eat yogurt.

Like ive said numerous times, give probiotics from your health food stores and the one in the fridge with "live strains"...not the one on the shelves.

Again, this is my opinion on yogurts! You are free to do what you want and think like you want.

Read the links attached it explains it well. I will mix Italian, French or English and confuse you more. Lolll

Why Not Yoghurt? - Dogs Naturally Magazine


How pet food is killing your dog - and why you should be feeding it parsnips and yoghurt | Daily Mail Online

I'm posting on this topic (again) because after I read the "Why Not Yoghurt?" article I was not satisfied or convinced that giving yogurt to my dog was a bad thing, or that I should have any concerns - enough to make me stop it as part of his health and diet regimen…I decided to do a little further reading on the medical doctor that was quoted in the (un-named author's) article - and beside the fact that she was a varicose veins specialist, her logic, though valid, was not convincing (enough for me)…So I reached out to the company where I buy my dog's yogurt about this topic and have included their response...

"Hello Laurie,

Thanks for reaching out to us with your question. Our milk is pasteurized
before it’s made into yogurt and we add our cultures to the milk after
pasteurization, when the milk has cooled down a bit. Our yogurt is not
re-pasteurized, so you still receive the benefit of our live and active
cultures. And because our products are certified organic you can be sure
they’re made without the use of persistent pesticides, synthetic hormones,
synthetic fertilizers, or other unhealthy stuff.

Thanks again for your question, and if you ever have another, please give
us a shout.

Sincerely,

Christine
Consumer Relations, Stonyfield"


The reason I am posting this is due to a lot of mis-information on the web (I encounter it often) and my passion for research includes clarifying certain topics for other people that would like to have facts (along with opinion).

This is not to knock your post or article Helene, I think your posts are good to have for resources and you obviously have a lot of knowledge in the food industry…I am a stickler for fact before forming an opinion on topics that I have thoroughly researched (and have written about)… Always up for as much info as possible and I am glad you posted this because I really enjoyed reading what Dr. Lanctot had to say from her previous profession as a medical doctor….in fact, I started a separate journal on her and her "whistle blowing" <-for lack of a better title, on the health care industry.

That said, yogurt is most definitely not for every dog…we do a trial and error to see what works and what doesn't. So far, it continues to be beneficial.

 

[sisters3]

[MENTION=10681]NewEnglandBully[/MENTION] Laurie!! After reading your post it dawned on my, it was Stoneyfield organic that I tried with Joey....as mentioned, unfortunately she is lactose intolerant.....Great post BTW !

 

[NewEnglandBully]

@NewEnglandBully Laurie!! After reading your post it dawned on my, it was Stoneyfield organic that I tried with Joey....as mentioned, unfortunately she is lactose intolerant.....Great post BTW !

GTK!! Do you mind if I tag you in future posts regarding this, if/when it is to come up? I think it wise to have members on either end of the topic (one it works for one it didn't).