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    Default Re: What just happened? Seizure, cramp, stroke???

    From your description I can presume : It's definitely not a stroke, as there are no consequences. It could be some kind of heart issues, which caused temporary shortage of brain blood supply, but then you most probably won't be able to diagnose it without Holter ECG monitoring, what means that small ECG thing takes data for 2-3 days and catches all mistakes in heart rate. So, when you plan your visit to Joburg check with vet clinic if they have Holter.
    To my human doctor eye, it looks like a tonic epileptic fit. They can be partial, or focal. In this case he will be alert.
    For sure it can be caused by rabies vaccine. The action of vaccine developes slowly, not overnight, so 3 weeks is actually very normal time to develop seizure. But you mustn't panic, it can be just one episode which will never repeat. So, you have to watch him closely and wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lalaloopsie View Post
    From your description I can presume : It's definitely not a stroke, as there are no consequences. It could be some kind of heart issues, which caused temporary shortage of brain blood supply, but then you most probably won't be able to diagnose it without Holter ECG monitoring, what means that small ECG thing takes data for 2-3 days and catches all mistakes in heart rate. So, when you plan your visit to Joburg check with vet clinic if they have Holter.
    To my human doctor eye, it looks like a tonic epileptic fit. They can be partial, or focal. In this case he will be alert.
    For sure it can be caused by rabies vaccine. The action of vaccine developes slowly, not overnight, so 3 weeks is actually very normal time to develop seizure. But you mustn't panic, it can be just one episode which will never repeat. So, you have to watch him closely and wait.
    Thank you, I'm luckily always home so I've been able to check him nonstop since yesterday. I can't see anything different with him, and trust me I'm looking for issues, I barely slept during the night...

    We recently got a new vet, he's a specialist in brachycephalic dogs, he's working at Onderstepoort veterinarian academic hospital. It's a veterinary university but they have tons of specialists there to teach the students. They're also the only place in South Africa that has developed a special replacement joint for bulldogs with hip dysplasia, as their joints are a bit different from a "normal" dog. I think that's pretty cool. I'm sure they'd have the equipment needed there...

    I was thinking... this couldn't be caused by some type of diabetes? My vet here says she thinks Bennie is overweight... I'll post some pics of him now.
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    He's born 24 May 2010, and he weighs 29kg (64lbs), he's also neutered which makes them a bit less fit...

    Is he too fat? The vet here in town thinks so, but we're the only ones with bulldogs probably in the whole province... so she wont see one basically ever...

    I don't know how diabetes symptoms work
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    Diabetes in dogs usually starts with excessive drinking and urinating, and they eat good but lose weight. I never heard about human-like type2 diabetes in dogs, connected with being overweight. I believe they have only type1, when pancreas produces no insulin. It usually starts 8 months -1 yo, and majority of cases in female. So, it is unlikely that Bennie has diabetes. But if you go to doctor you can always ask to check his glucose level, it's very easy. I think he is a tiny bit heavy, but not too much, as his waist is still visibly defined.
    My hubby is from PE and we know a good vet there, who has quite a bit of experience with bullies, but it is so far from where you stay

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    Default Re: What just happened? Seizure, cramp, stroke???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lalaloopsie View Post
    Diabetes in dogs usually starts with excessive drinking and urinating, and they eat good but lose weight. I never heard about human-like type2 diabetes in dogs, connected with being overweight. I believe they have only type1, when pancreas produces no insulin. It usually starts 8 months -1 yo, and majority of cases in female. So, it is unlikely that Bennie has diabetes. But if you go to doctor you can always ask to check his glucose level, it's very easy. I think he is a tiny bit heavy, but not too much, as his waist is still visibly defined.
    My hubby is from PE and we know a good vet there, who has quite a bit of experience with bullies, but it is so far from where you stay
    I had a cat who was diabetic, and yes it started w/the drinking and he kept getting UTI'S. It may be something you want to check into Petra... I hope that Bennie is okay... HUGS to you both!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddnene View Post
    I had a cat who was diabetic, and yes it started w/the drinking and he kept getting UTI'S. It may be something you want to check into Petra... I hope that Bennie is okay... HUGS to you both!!!
    He's not drinking much... he drinks like twice a day basically even though it's warm here, and he never has accidents inside or ask to go out to pee often... so I guess it's not that

    He's still normal so I'm hoping it was a one time thing
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    I Pray this will not happen again to Bennie. He looks Perfect to me, not fat, looks to be the perfect weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Otis View Post
    I Pray this will not happen again to Bennie. He looks Perfect to me, not fat, looks to be the perfect weight.
    Thank you Susan <3
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    Poor Bennie - and poor you. Sounds like a scary experience. Good to hear he seems to be doing well now. And he is beautiful - what a lovely face!


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    Default Re: What just happened? Seizure, cramp, stroke???

    Sorry I didn't read this until today. Chumley had a few petti mal seizures and one grand mal 7 months ago. Unfortunately they came back just yesterday and he's back on meds which worked until he was weaned off 4 weeks ago.
    Bennies incident doesn't sound like am eizure to me...chum shook violently and foamed at the mouth for a few minutes...lost consciousness during the big one...the smaller ones always involved foaming and shaking but no loss of consciousness....
    im sure you're watching him lie a hawk ...hopefully it doesn't happen again!

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