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    Default Re: Just found Lola has one kidney.

    Hi, I agree with above comments, this is a shock to find out your baby has a birth defect, and you will worry about how this will affect her life. Most breeders will give you a contract with a health guarantee as long as you have the puppy checked within a certain time frame. When I got my 2 puppies the contract said I had 3 days from the date of purchase to get a vet check or the contract was void. It also gave me a 1 year health guarantee for any birth or genetic defects. They would give me a new puppy or I would have to give the puppy back and they would refund my money. My pups passed their puppy vet check, but when they turned 5 months old, my female Blossom developed cherry eye, which is common in EB's, and Dozer had a growth spurt and his lower jaw grew much longer than it should be and he's also congenitally missing 2 of his molars on the bottom, his upper and lower teeth don't meet and this causes him to not be able to close his mouth so he eats very slow, and his tongue always hangs out, so he mouth breathes which gives him dry mouth and a dry nose. The vet said it is a genetic defect, and I could have given him back and got a refund, but I would never have considered it, he was my baby and God made him that way, so I loved him unconditionally and just the way he was. There is never any guarantees in life when it comes to our babies whether they be skin babies or fur babies, if we are lucky enough to have healthy babies, then that is great, and we count our blessings, but if we are blessed with babies and they may be born with health issues or genetic defects, then we accept them and love them no matter what, and we are blessed by them as well. My uncle went through his whole life not knowing he was born with only one kidney, he found out when he was in his 50's when he was having tests for something else. He never knew and it never affected him, he is in his 70's now and his kidney has never been an issue. The one kidney grew bigger than normal size to compensate for the missing kidney and does the job for both. Many people live with only one kidney and they are fine, and I'm sure it is the same with dogs, her one kidney will grow a little bigger and will work for the missing kidney. I would however let the breeder know that her puppy has this genetic defect, so she hopefully will not breed the dog that has this trait anymore.
    I did that with my breeder, I called them up and told her I wasn't interested in a new puppy or a refund, but wanted to let her know that Blossom had cherry eye in both eyes, and that Dozer had a defect in his jaw, and that she should be aware of this so as not to breed their parents anymore. I don't know if she did the responsible thing, but I hope she did. I hope Lola is okay, and her infection clears up.
    LEARN A LESSON FROM YOUR DOG, NO MATTER WHAT LIFE BRINGS YOU, KICK SOME GRASS OVER THAT AND MOVE ON.

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    Our pup Floyd was diagnosed with Hypercuricoseria shortly after we got him. This is a hereditary. His genetic testing showed he had both mutated genes meaning both mom and dad had to be carrIers. I kept our breeder in the loop during all the testing. When the results came out we were offered to give him back and get a new puppy or our money back. Of course we could do neither as we already loved him. I was very disappointed to see a month later he was breeding the same dog. Unfortunately I think we are given this health guarantee and if something goes wrong we are offered a new puppy which most of us would not consider taking and they know that........makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Lola View Post
    Our pup Floyd was diagnosed with Hypercuricoseria shortly after we got him. This is a hereditary. His genetic testing showed he had both mutated genes meaning both mom and dad had to be carrIers. I kept our breeder in the loop during all the testing. When the results came out we were offered to give him back and get a new puppy or our money back. Of course we could do neither as we already loved him. I was very disappointed to see a month later he was breeding the same dog. Unfortunately I think we are given this health guarantee and if something goes wrong we are offered a new puppy which most of us would not consider taking and they know that........makes me sad.
    i totally agree, they know most people will have bonded and fall in love with their puppy, so not want to return it, so they count on that, plus I would also worry about what would happen to the puppy if you returned it, as they wouldn't be able to sell it because of its health issues, so do the breeders put that puppy down?
    LEARN A LESSON FROM YOUR DOG, NO MATTER WHAT LIFE BRINGS YOU, KICK SOME GRASS OVER THAT AND MOVE ON.

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    Default Re: Just found Lola has one kidney.

    In my opinion that is why it's easy to give that kind of guarantee, cause not many people would give back their pups. Carrier dog can be bred, but only with a clear one. So if they have tested....but who knows, since they didn't do in the first place....

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Lola View Post
    Our pup Floyd was diagnosed with Hypercuricoseria shortly after we got him. This is a hereditary. His genetic testing showed he had both mutated genes meaning both mom and dad had to be carrIers. I kept our breeder in the loop during all the testing. When the results came out we were offered to give him back and get a new puppy or our money back. Of course we could do neither as we already loved him. I was very disappointed to see a month later he was breeding the same dog. Unfortunately I think we are given this health guarantee and if something goes wrong we are offered a new puppy which most of us would not consider taking and they know that........makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chengpeter12 View Post
    Waiting for the breeder to call back.

    So sorry this is happening to you and your baby! I agree with David, the breeder most like will just want her back and give a new pup, or offer a level of refund, not much.

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    Default Re: Just found Lola has one kidney.

    I wouldn't give the pup back, but I would ask for a full refund to cover medical bills.


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    Default Re: Just found Lola has one kidney.

    We are waiting for the breeder to call us back. She will not be going anywhere, we are hoping the breeder will cover the bills so far, which we do not think is unreasonable. We actually gave her a deposit about 2 months ago for another puppy, since we wanted Lola to have "Hercules" to play with. Here is the summary of the specialist report we received today:

    Presenting for evaluation of urinary incontinence. Lola has been having accidents since her owner adopted her. She will have accidents in the house and will leak urine when standing or lying down. Lola has a normal urine stream outside. Lola was evaluated and placed on antibiotics for a urinary tract infection.

    Machine generated alternative text: Veterinary Internal Medicine Practice 3) Missing right kidney with a large left kidney- presumably right renal agenesis with compensative left kidney hypertrophy. => Collectively, findings suggest incontinence due to polyuria (increased urine formation) from infection of the single kidney. Recommendations/Options: 1) Continue antibiotics for 1-2 months total (recommendations vary). 2) Recheck a urine culture 3-4 days after the course of antibiotics. If the culture is negative we will continue off antibiotics and recheck a culture one month later. 3) Continue to monitor kidney values regularly long term (ex. chemistry, urinalysis, blood pressure, etc). Also consider further evaluation of left kidney structure/function such as filtration studies or kidney biopsy. Medication: 1) Zeniquin 25mg: Continue 1 1/2 tablet orally once daily for at least 1 month. 2) Cephalexin 350mg: Give 1 capsule orally twice daily for at least 1 month. 3) Zytec: Continue 1/2 tablet orally once daily.

    Thanks for all your concerns, she is such a sweet girl a real cuddle monster.

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    I've been working with my breeder as we discovered Boris has severe hip dysplasia. She's offered us a new puppy but we have to surrender Boris to her in order for that to happen. I would rather get some money back and keep him, but she refuses to give me any money back... They're all different though.

    My family breeds labs and we have only had two issues in which we let them keep their puppy and supplied them with another... I wish bully breeders all acted the same and stood behind their breed, but there are challenges with the breed...

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