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    I have a rescue dog who isn't spayed.

    I have only had her less than a week and started her medial care.I was going to include spaying but I only want her tubes tied,I don't want her to have her ovaries removed. Ovaries are a good thing to have.

    Has anyone been lucky enough to find a Vet who does this.

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    I haven't but I'm sure they are out there, did you ask her vet about it?

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    Not that I know of.... Actually, I never really thought about that, so interesting
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    Very interesting thread all my girls had ovaries removed , so im going to subscribe and see what others have to say about the other option -as tbh i never knew about two options
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    Yes I want her to keep her ovaries.MOST I would MABEY allow is a hysterectomy.( no cycle bleeding)

    Funny how owners innocently do to their dogs what they wouldn't think of doing to themselves

    I had a Vet tell me while puppy shots were a MUST annual shots to dogs was a bad thing for dogs/good for the drug companies and Vets.

    She asked me if I would keep getting Vaccinated every year? Which only compromise the immune system.
    I did Titers for 6 years,which were always high and meant the shot were an unnessary evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allaboutbulldogs View Post

    Funny how owners innocently do to their dogs what they wouldn't think of doing to themselves.
    On my defence i wanted to have myself "done" so i wont get pregnant but husband decided to do it himself instead -so yeah - my husband has done what we did to the dogs -both of them cannot make or have babies (the only difference he still hot his bits lol)


    With regards to vaccinations i think it is everyone personal choice ,same goes for flu jabs for humans
    We are doing them every year to our fur babies and ourselves
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    This is the info i found on the subject Tubal Ligation or Hysterectomy:
    A tubal ligation, whether in veterinary or human medicine, only affects the oviducts. These small structures are isolated during surgery and then cut and tied off with suture material. This prevents the ova from coming in contact with sperm cells or passing into the horns of the uterus. In a hysterectomy, the uterus is removed, but the ovaries remain. With either procedure, the hormones that are normally produced by the ovaries continue to be released to the rest of the body. This is fairly important in humans. However, in dogs it is a disadvantage.

    Tubal ligations and hysterectomies, through owner demand or veterinary preference, have never been very popular in canine medicine. Some owners see hysterectomy or tubal ligation as a way to sterilize the pet, yet still allow her to experience heat cycles and participate in mating. Because the ovaries remain in the animal, the disadvantages of these procedures are similar to those seen in intact dogs (dogs that have not had surgical sterilization).

    Disadvantages of tubal ligation, hysterectomy, or not spaying your dog

    An OHE eliminates most, if not all, of the female hormone production. In so doing, the real advantages of this procedure are realized. In human cases, great efforts are undertaken to maintain or restore hormone production in the body, but the same is only rarely true in canine practice. These hormones play key roles in reproduction in the dog. However, they can also have many unwanted side effects.

    Estrus: During the heat cycle there are behavior and hygienic problems that develop. Females in heat will actively search out male dogs and may attempt to escape from the house or yard, putting them in the danger of traffic, fights with other animals, etc. Often there is a sudden influx of male dogs around the home and yard. These dogs leave numerous droppings and spray plants and trees with urine in an attempt to mark their new found territory. Owners also need to contend with the vaginal bleeding that typically lasts for 4 to 13 days.

    Mammary cancer: Estrogen is one of the primary causes of canine mammary cancer, the most common malignant tumor in dogs. Animals that are spayed prior to one year of age very rarely develop this malignancy. Spaying a dog before her first heat is the best way to significantly reduce the chance your dog will develop mammary cancer. The risk of malignant mammary tumors in dogs spayed prior to their first heat is 0.05%. It is 8% for dog spayed after one heat, and 26% in dogs spayed after their second heat.

    Tumors of the reproductive tract: Tumors can occur in the uterus and ovaries. An OHE would, of course, eliminate any possibility of these occurring.

    Uterine infections: Many female dogs have problems with a severe uterine disease called pyometra following their heat cycles. With this disorder, a normal three-ounce uterus can weigh ten to fifteen pounds and be filled solely with pus. Undetected, this condition is always fatal. Its treatment requires either the use of expensive hormonal and IV fluid therapy or an extremely difficult and expensive ovariohysterectomy. A normal spay costs between $100 and $200, while one done to correct a pyometra can easily cost $600 to over $1000, depending on complications. The strain on the kidneys or heart in some of these cases may be fatal or cause life long problems, even after the infected uterus has been removed.

    False pregnancy: Some bitches fail to routinely go out of their heat cycles correctly causing a condition we call 'false pregnancy.' In these cases, even though the bitch may not have mated with a male dog, her body believes it is pregnant due to some incorrect hormonal stimulations that it is receiving. The dog may just have some abdominal swelling and/or engorgement of the mammary glands, but in some cases, they will even make nests and snuggle with socks or toys against their bodies. These animals often experience no longterm serious problems, as the behavior disappears when the circulating hormones return to their appropriate levels. In others, we may see mastitis (infection of the mammary glands), metritis (infection of the uterus), or sometimes these cases develop into full-blown pyometras. We recommend spaying dogs that consistently have false pregnancies.

    Hair coat problems: In dogs, hair does not grow continuously as in people, but has a definite growing (anagen) and resting (telogen) phase. Estrogen, which is increased during estrus, retards or inhibits the anagen phase, so more hairs are in the telogen phase. These resting hairs are more easily lost because they are less firmly anchored. As a result, the hair coat on many dogs suffers because of estrogen surges that occur with heat cycles or whelping. Their coats appear thin and the underlying skin is exposed in many areas. It can take two to four months for the hair to return to normal. Additionally, there are a small number of female dogs that never develop a normal hair coat because of the cycling hormones. Their coats are consistently thin over the sides of their bodies and these cases are sometimes confused diagnostically with hypothyroid animals. The only treatment for these dogs is an OHE.
    Source : http://www.peteducation.com/article....2+2109&aid=926
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    Your Husband only got snipped his gonads were not removed A male dog loose his gonads removed and there fore his Hormones. You would have had a Tubal ligation .

    No Doctor would remove your Husbands Testis and no Dr would remove your womb and ovaries as a means to birth control.

    So NO you didn't want this done to you! It would have caused early menopause with all the downsides and health risks..

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    In sorry -my post was written in light form to your comment was in no way defensive to receive this kind of reply.(but thank you for clarifying what i know already anyway )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pati Robins View Post
    In sorry -my post was written in light form to your comment was in no way defensive to receive this kind of reply.(but thank you for clarifying what i know already anyway )
    I think maybe my reply was misunderstood or perhaps I didn't write I as it was meant?
    No offense meant at all.

    I hadn't even read you response with your lookup info. Yet you did say your Husband had gotten himself fixed while dogs are castrated.
    You also sad you were going to undertake getting your self fixed which s nothing like they do to Bitches hence my reply/

    I am not here to change anyone's mind just to give my opinions and read others,

    Thanks for taking the tie to post the info.

    My response would be many women get breast Cancer but would they elect to take off All
    womens breasts off?
    Men get testicular cancer butwould he remove all men testis

    Once again I am sorry you took offense/none meant.

    Excuse typos/noticed when I am on this site all my letters don't how.
    btw/is there a check speller/new to this site.

    Thanks

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