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    Default Re: Is this the precursor to bloat or something else? Any ideas?

    We have had about 4 excessive drooling episodes with Georgie Girl over the last 6 months. The 1st time we freaked out and took her to the Vet who hosed her mouth out sideways with a garden hose after checking for tooth or gum problems. She then suggested we give her a 10 mg prednisone in case of inflamation. Since then when it happens rinse her mouth out, give her a benedryl, get out the beach towels and let her drool it out and sleep. It subsides in a couple of hours. Personally, I think it is stomach discomfort.

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    Well, I spoke too soon all is not well with Charley. Yesterday afternoon he got loose bowels that were yellowish in color. Normal bowel volume. He also seems quiet after eating and doesn't want to play. When he attempts to go after the ball, it's two throws and he is done! That's not our Charley!

    The vet was open today so I took him in again this afternoon. I was able to see the clinic owner. Charley's demeanor there was just fine -- go figure. The vet found a minor amount of bacteria in the stool sample, so they put him on metronidazole 250 mg and purina fortiflora probiotics. No X-ray, said tummy sounded fine. He checked Charley's mouth again, no issues. No temp either. If this round of meds doesn't work, he wants to do blood work. He said he didn't want to over-treat which I do respect.

    He was also fine with starting to ease Charley back onto the acana lamb since he had done well on it. I gave him 2tbs of it tonight in his 1 cup of rice and chicken, along with the meds. So now he's back to too quiet and uncomfortable, just like after breakfast. Not interested in playing and wasn't much interested in his walk! Aargh! It hurts so much to see my fur baby feel this bad!

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    Default Re: Is this the precursor to bloat or something else? Any ideas?

    Oh no, was hoping he was all better now

    Something is surely going on, your vet sounds very confident, and I hope whatever it is the new med works.


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    Default Re: Is this the precursor to bloat or something else? Any ideas?

    I would have the Vet do an X-Ray or an ultra sound just to make sure that your Charley is ok. It could be an obstruction,Please let us know how Charley is doing. Susan

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    Default Re: Is this the precursor to bloat or something else? Any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Mitchel View Post
    Well, I spoke too soon all is not well with Charley. Yesterday afternoon he got loose bowels that were yellowish in color. Normal bowel volume. He also seems quiet after eating and doesn't want to play. When he attempts to go after the ball, it's two throws and he is done! That's not our Charley!

    The vet was open today so I took him in again this afternoon. I was able to see the clinic owner. Charley's demeanor there was just fine -- go figure. The vet found a minor amount of bacteria in the stool sample, so they put him on metronidazole 250 mg and purina fortiflora probiotics. No X-ray, said tummy sounded fine. He checked Charley's mouth again, no issues. No temp either. If this round of meds doesn't work, he wants to do blood work. He said he didn't want to over-treat which I do respect.

    He was also fine with starting to ease Charley back onto the acana lamb since he had done well on it. I gave him 2tbs of it tonight in his 1 cup of rice and chicken, along with the meds. So now he's back to too quiet and uncomfortable, just like after breakfast. Not interested in playing and wasn't much interested in his walk! Aargh! It hurts so much to see my fur baby feel this bad!
    I'd be asking for the barium x-ray. My girl had absolutely no signs of obstruction, but had a two inch rock in her stomachand I knew something was off due to her behavior.

    I so hope it is a stomach bug or a food issue, but think about the x-ray just to rule out any serious issues.
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    I just got off the phone with the vet since he isn't drinking much water at all. Stool sample yesterday had "spore forming rods", indicative of a bug. Loose bowels are now forming up and there is more spring in his step tonight. Hopefully now that he is on meds (albeit horrible ones), he'll be better soon. We're watching him like a couple of hawks though. So concerned there could be something in his tummy! Vets just find it hard to believe based on symptoms that there could be an obstruction.

    Hey, he just brought the ball to us and is playing. Progress?


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    Could be progress, sure hope so!

    Vets don't know bullies love for swallowing things whole like we do.... Until you pull a dangling item out yourself and try to fathom what it could be....


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    Default Re: Is this the precursor to bloat or something else? Any ideas?

    Charley seems to be doing a better. He's back to playing ball -- 3 times today! He even seems hungrier. I'd say he is now on the mend!

    The probiotic the vet put him on short term is purina's fortiflora. Do any of you have a preferred probiotic and/or digestive enzyme? The guard hairs around his neck are thinning and it looks like it is starting on his head too. Another issue I never experienced with our previous bullies, though one also had allergies. I found a brand online from Nusentia that looks interesting, though expensive. Ever heard of this?

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    Oh, no! I gave Charley a touch of ACV in his water this a.m. He wouldn't touch it, so I dumped out most of it, added more water and a splash of chicken broth to cover any hint of the ACV. AARGH --What was I thinking!!! I've been concerned about chicken and fish and I just gave him chicken! To confuse matters, we also cleaned his ears this am, which he hates. 2 hours later, Charley is now drooling and feeling uncomfortable/restless again. I just gave him a Pepcid and we are sitting on the couch together trying to settle. 😨


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Mitchel View Post
    Oh, no! I gave Charley a touch of ACV in his water this a.m. He wouldn't touch it, so I dumped out most of it, added more water and a splash of chicken broth to cover any hint of the ACV. AARGH --What was I thinking!!! I've been concerned about chicken and fish and I just gave him chicken! To confuse matters, we also cleaned his ears this am, which he hates. 2 hours later, Charley is now drooling and feeling uncomfortable/restless again. I just gave him a Pepcid and we are sitting on the couch together trying to settle. 😨


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    So far so good. He had a nap, then begrudgingly went out for a walk. Came back full of energy. This is definitely tummy related. Could that small amount of chicken broth really do it? Hopefully there won't be any issues this week. If so, I'll introduce a few bites of chicken and wait to see what happens. I hope it is the chicken! That's fairly easy to resolve.


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    Ok, Charley's tummy is still upset. Drooling after dinner. He is now asleep on the couch, so I didn't have to use Pepcid.

    He's been 100% fine until this a.m. I've had him on 1/2 tsp coconut oil &1 cup acana lamb & apple each meal this week. Bowels & energy were fine this afternoon. So, this pain, while gi related, isn't from the bacterial infection. I'm really stumped. I hate seeing him hurt.


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