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    Sorry I missed this thread, I sure hope he gets his X rays done soon and I'll be sending prayers


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    I haven't given any more carprofen to Ace since yesterday, he usually eats like a horse and was still doing so after the injury but a few days after medication and he has just about quit eating. Also his face has become a mess with tear staining and scratching so much its almost raw. I attribute it to the medication as nothing else has changed. His shedding is worse and coat is more brittle and his stools are darker as well, so all in all I suspect the medication and ceased giving it. The medication didn't appear to be doing that much for him anyway, he doesn't favor or limp any worse with or without the medication.

    Tim, have you talked to your Vet about this med not being effective as well as the itching?
    Maybe giving another med to counteract such itching (I know we hate giving MORE meds)
    but short term it may be needed so infections don't develop. I know that virgin coconut oil
    (you can find in Walmart) is good to warm in hand (it's in solid form) than apply to skin. It
    helps heal as well as being anti microbial, anti viral, anti fungal, etc and will help w/itch altho
    sounds like this is extreme itch. Get the cold pressed, organic and can give this internally as
    well, start out with 1 tsp daily (Nature's Way, EfaGold Coconut Oil). Use as a topper, it may
    encourage appetite, they love the taste. It will promote all the above from internally use.
    Good luck, Tim & Ace! Let us know what happens w/x-rays.


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    Update and a bit of a rant as well. So I went through my medicine cabinet to see if I had any NSAID's that might be helpful to Ace as he had what I believe was an allergic reaction to the carprofen, well I had some Meloxican 7.5 mg. that was prescribed for me a while back when I was injured on the job [concussion] and researched and found its also a veterinarian medication. So I quartered the tablet and gave a quarter of it to see how Ace would tolerate, it helped the pain and his appetite has returned as well, so next day went to about a half tablet roughly 3.5 mg. and Ace still seems to tolerate well. He felt so much better he was wanting to roughhouse and tug of war which I was not willing to do and was just holding on to the ball on the couch and he decided to swing his big butt around and jump off the couch while holding on to the ball and landed on his leg and immediately yelped which is unusual for him and immediately began to favor his leg and obviously in pain.
    In the meantime I am still waiting on the Vet to get their x-ray machine back up, I called twice on different days and it was still not up and they reassured me they would call when it was ready. So now we are into the third week of his injury and into the second week of initial visit to the Vet for the injury. Yesterday I call again and the machine is still not up. So now I'm getting a bit pissed. How in the world can you go nearly 2 weeks without an x-ray machine at a Veterinarian hospital. What if a dog had been struck by a car or any number of issues and you can't x-ray?
    So I bite the bullet and decide to eat crow and go back to our original Vet. I switched Vet's in the first place as some of you may recall, not because I didn't like the Vet, I did/do but because the office personnel had screwed up several times with records and medication. So I make an appointment with our previous Vet this morning and they took me right in. She examined the knee and agreed that Ace probably needed to be sedated and x-rayed as well. But low and behold she suggest we wait until Monday when she will have a complete staff on hand to monitor Ace under sedation and etc. and I was okay with that. I also of course told her I had switched his medication and why and she basically agreed and checked the proper dosage with the medication I have on hand and said to give one dose a day at about 3mg. Her initial diagnosis is most likely a partial tear. She said that even though I had medicated him this morning that in a dog his size if it is a complete rupture that we would see a more complete lameness and obvious movement in his knee. She also said that she suspected that under sedation she would find less movement or no more movement in his knee but still wants to do it and take x-ray to rule out any bone fragments in the knee and possible fractures. So her suggestions on options to take. She said the latest consensus for partial tears in a larger dogs like Ace is to go ahead with surgical repair even on partial tears but said she would not do it but refer to an orthopedic surgeon, she said because she didn't want to be the one who repaired a partial tear and then make the dog's knee worse by doing so. I am assuming by this that if it was an obvious rupture she would do the surgery but I didn't ask. The second option is to continue with the medication for inflammation and pain and Laser therapy. So they gave the first laser therapy this morning and will do the next session when he is in on Monday for the sedation and x-rays. Its 6 laser sessions over a course of several days. Of course she said limit his activity as much as is reasonable and she said there is no guarantee that he wouldn't completely rupture it in the future and then it would be obvious need for surgery. What we have opted for is of course less evasive and a decent chance of recovery if or when the knee stabilizes through regular healing and the treatment we are going with.
    Also I took the initiative this morning to clear the air with the Vet. After the exam when the Tech had left the room to get the laser machine and the Vet was entering the data on the computer I said Dr Leslie I would like to clear the air on an issue and let you know why I left for another Vet in the first place. She stopped what she was doing and came and sat on the examination table in front of me and said by all means please do so I would like to know. So I told her the reason I left had nothing to do with her and that I would have never left her practice because I was completely satisfied with you as the Vet but the reason I left was because of the incompetence of some of your office personnel. And I outlined what had transpired and she was in complete agreement with me. She basically saying three strikes and your out and I had given them several opportunities to get it right. I told her when I initially decided to change Vet's that I told my wife [ who also takes her dog to this vet and she and my wife are friends on a business level as well, my wife being a banker] I told her that I had mentioned to my wife that someone should tell Dr Leslie about this issue because its going to hurt her practice having screw ups in the office. Anyway I did so today and one of the persons had already been fired for making inappropriate remarks to a client, the same thing that happened between that person and my wife over my wife's maltese.
    Now wait and see what I bet may happen. I will get a call today or Monday from the Vet clinic who had the x-ray machine down and want to reschedule the appointment for monday to do the follow up exam. Ain't that about the way it goes? But it doesn't matter now I am going to stay with my original Vet through this issue and perhaps indefinitely.

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    What a terrible set of circumstances. It's good to hear that you were able to clear the air with the original vet and I hope that works out for good. Poor Ace he's got my prayers for him.

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    Wow, what a mission you've been through with this Good that you could clear the air and that your vet took it well I'm thinking of you and Ace hoping he will feel better soon<3
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    Holy wow what an ordeal... Prayers continued for Ace.... Best of luck with your vet and keep us posted


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    I took Ace in to our original Vet Monday morning for follow up examination for possible torn ACL under sedation and x-rays.
    The diagnosis was good from what we originally feared. Most likely a minor cruciate tear.
    X-rays revealed normal hips, no fractures or luxations of knee.
    Ace got his second of a series of laser treatments and it does appear to be helping.
    Treatment is to continue the metacam once daily for now and the laser therapy and to limit his sprinting and turning sharp corners and jumping as much as possible.
    Thanks for all the reply's, concerns and well wishes.
    This is a great forum, with loads of knowledgeable and loving folks.
    Once again thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural mystic View Post
    I took Ace in to our original Vet Monday morning for follow up examination for possible torn ACL under sedation and x-rays.
    The diagnosis was good from what we originally feared. Most likely a minor cruciate tear.
    X-rays revealed normal hips, no fractures or luxations of knee.
    Ace got his second of a series of laser treatments and it does appear to be helping.
    Treatment is to continue the metacam once daily for now and the laser therapy and to limit his sprinting and turning sharp corners and jumping as much as possible.
    Thanks for all the reply's, concerns and well wishes.
    This is a great forum, with loads of knowledgeable and loving folks.
    Once again thanks.
    much better news! We do laser treatments for Banks back issues, totally makes a difference and we notice if we miss or are late with one of her sessions.
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    @Rural mystic...Tim, came here to check on y'all so glad to see your updates.
    Especially glad that it doesn't seem as bad as you thought and I think, going
    back to your original Vet was best thing too. That laser treatment will help
    tons! Continuing to pray for Ace, a complete & full recovery and no problems
    later...I know after all these weeks of misery & worry, you are feeling hopeful
    and I hope much sadness has lifted off your shoulders. Amazing how much we
    love our dogs (and cats, birds, lizards, etc)...and how much they give to us


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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Carol View Post
    @Rural mystic...Tim, came here to check on y'all so glad to see your updates.
    Especially glad that it doesn't seem as bad as you thought and I think, going
    back to your original Vet was best thing too. That laser treatment will help
    tons! Continuing to pray for Ace, a complete & full recovery and no problems
    later...I know after all these weeks of misery & worry, you are feeling hopeful
    and I hope much sadness has lifted off your shoulders. Amazing how much we
    love our dogs (and cats, birds, lizards, etc)...and how much they give to us
    Thanks, I agree whole heartedly

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    Good news for Ace regarding his rear legs -no damage ,hd etc i hope he will be better soon

    Ps i would do change a practice ,few years back i had an argument with one of the ladies in reception the way she speaks to patients -the is no need for this behaviour and niceness and compassion doesn't cost nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural mystic View Post
    Thanks, I agree whole heartedly

    Duchess ss has been limpimg and I suspect similar issue as what you had. What does laser treatment cost?

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