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It's funny, you try to show up at doctors office with your own theories of what's going on, and kind of "declare" them to the doctor, and half the time the doctor just looks at you like "And who are you? And what's your training?". Fingers crossed it won't be like that this afternoon. I'm at a specialist hospital right now.

giardia was specifically checked. Oh, they also confirmed no heartworm.
 

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With the parasite testing, unless you specifically ask for a Giardia test they do not do it as it is not standard.... I would ask for the Giardia test and get the ultrasound. I am leaning toward obstruction, but the g-test is not expensive to rule out

Christine is 100% correct on this one… we had to specifically ask for a Giardia test on Winston before they gave it to him.
 

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It's funny, you try to show up at doctors office with your own theories of what's going on, and kind of "declare" them to the doctor, and half the time the doctor just looks at you like "And who are you? And what's your training?". Fingers crossed it won't be like that this afternoon. I'm at a specialist hospital right now.

giardia was specifically checked. Oh, they also confirmed no heartworm.

Good… I'm really hoping that they will find some answers soon. Sending prayers, please keep us posted...
 

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It's funny, you try to show up at doctors office with your own theories of what's going on, and kind of "declare" them to the doctor, and half the time the doctor just looks at you like "And who are you? And what's your training?". Fingers crossed it won't be like that this afternoon. I'm at a specialist hospital right now.

giardia was specifically checked. Oh, they also confirmed no heartworm.

Best of luck, Kevin.... ultrasound all the way then, if the g-test was done. hope the heck they find what is making him so sick.
 
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They just brought him in for emergency surgery :( even tho they didn't see anything on the ultrasound except a huge portion of his abdomen is abnormal while the portion ahead of it is normal. Implying an obstruction. So they're going to do exploratory :(

i spent 10 mins talking to the surgeon about my concerns with anesthesia. His reaction was that there's always risks with anesthesia, but only 1 in something like 10,000. I pointed out that it's much higher with English Bulldogs. I'm not sure why I had to point that out. Hopefully he already knew that.

I told him the Baxter stops breathing when he's just laying there sleeping. Let alone on anesthesia…. He said somebody will be there with him during recovery. I said someone needs to sit with him literally The entire time, and make sure he doesn't stop breathing. I even offered to come in and sit with him myself.Normally I wouldn't be worried about something like this, but I'm really worried about his ability to deal with anesthesia.

The surgeon also said, when obstructions have been there for longer than even 24 hours, they can cause tissue damage. And that they might need to cut out a portion of his intestines and then reconnect them. If the tissue had been damaged from the obstruction for too long. I'm so thankful you guys made me go back in to get him checked. It continues to blow me away the doctors can be presented with a situation like this and just send the dog home. Without even having a hunch that something serious might be up. Why are you and I the ones that know this. But the trained doctors just send me home. I am not even trained, and I knew this wasn't as simple as "wait-and-see". You would think their medical training would have recommended different advice.

is there anything I need to make sure of regarding the anesthesia, the surgery, or anything you can think of? Based on stories you've heard, or experiences you've had? Anything that they might forget, that I need to make sure to doublecheck on? I know how situations like these go. It's always that one oversight that causes the problem. Appreciate any input.

I'm sitting outside the animal hospital tonight. I'm not going to even drive home. I'll wait here.
 
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They just brought him in for emergency surgery :( even tho they didn't see anything on the ultrasound except a huge portion of his abdomen is abnormal while the portion ahead of it is normal. Implying an obstruction. So they're going to do exploratory :(

i spent 10 mins talking to the surgeon about my concerns with anesthesia. His reaction was that there's always risks with anesthesia, but only 1 in something like 10,000. I pointed out that it's much higher with English Bulldogs. I'm not sure why I had to point that out. Hopefully he already knew that.

I told him the Baxter stops breathing when he's just laying there sleeping. Let alone on anesthesia…. He said somebody will be there with him during recovery. I said someone needs to sit with him literally The entire time, and make sure he doesn't stop breathing. I even offered to come in and sit with him myself.Normally I wouldn't be worried about something like this, but I'm really worried about his ability to deal with anesthesia.

The surgeon also said, when obstructions have been there for longer than even 24 hours, they can cause tissue damage. And that they might need to cut out a portion of his intestines and then reconnect them. If the tissue had been damaged from the obstruction for too long. I'm so thankful you guys made me go back in to get him checked. It continues to blow me away the doctors can be presented with a situation like this and just send the dog home. Without even having a hunch that something serious might be up. Why are you and I the ones that know this. But the trained doctors just send me home. I am not even trained, and I knew this wasn't as simple as "wait-and-see". You would think their medical training would have recommended different advice.

is there anything I need to make sure of regarding the anesthesia, the surgery, or anything you can think of? Based on stories you've heard, or experiences you've had? Anything that they might forget, that I need to make sure to doublecheck on? I know how situations like these go. It's always that one oversight that causes the problem. Appreciate any input.

I'm sitting outside the animal hospital tonight. I'm not going to even drive home. I'll wait here.


OMG Kevin --- prayers and hugs. These are higher trained doctors and they will care for your baby as he should be..... when Nitschke had his surgeries due to his apnea, they actually had a technician sit with him the entire time while in recovery, if they told you will do that, then they will.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear that he had to have surgery, but I am so thankful that you brought him back in. I would not leave either. Will they let you sit with him? I do not have any answers as far as the surgery, Brutus is an old english bulldog so his snout is a little more elongated than a regular english so for his three surgeries he was fine. I would be goggling like a maniac though. Don't let anyone off put you if you do have questions/suggestions. Just because they are doctors does not mean they have final say. You know Baxter best. I will pray for him tonight and I hope everything goes smoothly. Please continue to update when you get any info.
 

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Kevin I'm so sorry to hear that Baxter has to have surgery, but honestly I'm SO thankful that you took him to the hospital. I can't believe your vet clinic just sent him home…:cursing: If they couldn't figure out what is wrong w/him then why didn't they suggest a specialist in the first place!!! Sending prayers & hugs your way, and I hope that they figure out what is wrong w/your baby...
 

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Sending our prayers and good thoughts to you and Baxter! Please update us!
 
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I asked him if I could sit with Baxter afterwards, and it was almost like they thought that was a weird request. At least that's the vibe I got. But I am going to ask anyways. I can't drive home. Not really prepared for how this hit me. He's still such a little boy. I hate that he's being cut open. And I really don't like that he didn't see anything on the ultrasound. I really hope he's not just trying to get a $4000 surgery for his clinic. Wish I didn't have so many trust issues with doctors… lol
 

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Kevin, I'm so sorry… I completely understand your worry, he is your baby and this is an emergency. I would ask as many questions as you want, they are getting paid plenty… I have trust issues w/doctor's as well, especially when it comes to my pets. It's so hard to trust them anymore.
 

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Well I sure hope they can find out what is wrong , if it is obstruction just try to have him be calm, he will likely have acidic diarrhea, for that several bum washes a day topped with gold bond and diaper rash ointment will help.

Ask afterwards about the risks of any leakage. (If they have to cut open the intestine to remove something), and symptoms of being septic.

I pray all goes well with the surgery. Sending love and prayers to you both :grouphug:


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Kevin, I am so sorry to hear about Baxter having surgery-but I think you did the right thing, taking him to specialist. I am praying for you and Bax-that he will come through this okay and all will be well. When he recovers, start looking for a new vet. My prayers are with you. I know how worried you must be. Please let us know when surgery is completed,and how you both are doing. Praying.....
 

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Kevin I am so sorry you ar3 going through this. I will be keeping you and Baxter in my thoughts and prayers.

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I'm glad you took him to a specialist, because I think the other vet is an idiot. I would definable find a different vet, he should have known that from the git go. I hope he does well with the surgery and they find out what is causing this.
 
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