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    My bully also has idiopathic epilepsy. He fly snaps, looks like he is trying to bite his ear-- I was wondering if over time they could turn into grand mal.. Does anyone have experience with this. My vet can never give a straight answer.. His medicine has been trial and error now for months. He becomes immune to the dosage increase monthly.

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    Default Re: Article: Head Tremors in English Bulldogs

    Quote Originally Posted by BullyLove143 View Post
    My bully also has idiopathic epilepsy. He fly snaps, looks like he is trying to bite his ear-- I was wondering if over time they could turn into grand mal.. Does anyone have experience with this. My vet can never give a straight answer.. His medicine has been trial and error now for months. He becomes immune to the dosage increase monthly.
    @Libra926 @ChanelnBrutus -- can give more insight. it would be great if you video you could post fro them to view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BullyLove143 View Post
    My bully also has idiopathic epilepsy. He fly snaps, looks like he is trying to bite his ear-- I was wondering if over time they could turn into grand mal.. Does anyone have experience with this. My vet can never give a straight answer.. His medicine has been trial and error now for months. He becomes immune to the dosage increase monthly.
    Yes my Brutus does fly bite! He had a surgery at 8 mnths and a week later experienced 3 seziures within a couple days! About a month later he started fly biting and we were told by a vet that it was a seizure. We had put him on meds (seziure meds) and I didnt like the side effects that came with it!!!! THe episodes were quick when he did it maybe a minute but once we distracted him with something he stopped! I still havent figured out what triggers them and I dont think I ever will! When he starts try to give him a treat or a toy to keep him distracted! It should work....We had seen another vet who said that he wouldnt classify it as seizures and didnt think the meds were a good idea!!!! Epilepsy is something different and if he is having seizures (epliepsy) with the fly biting Im not sure! Cheryl has more advice as far as seizures...

    Has your bully had seziures along with fly biting? Do you have some videos you could post
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    No he has never had a seizure. Just fly snapping. All I do is research because I swear this comes from a behavioral issue. He is on pheno2x a day & Potassium bromide 2x a day. It just doesn't seem to be working like it should. Every time we have to up the dose, it seems like he does it more. He will do it at least 3x a week for about 1 minute. He is very very high energy and only does it when he's not being entertained with someone or by something. I hate to keep increasing his medicine when the improvements aren't that noticeable. The dr I deal with is a very well know neurologist- I'd like to get a 2nd opinion but I don't know whom else to turn to.

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    No he has never had a seizure. Just fly snapping. All I do is research because I swear this comes from a behavioral issue. He is on pheno2x a day & Potassium bromide 2x a day. It just doesn't seem to be working like it should. Every time we have to up the dose, it seems like he does it more. He will do it at least 3x a week for about 1 minute. He is very very high energy and only does it when he's not being entertained with someone or by something. I hate to keep increasing his medicine when the improvements aren't that noticeable. The dr I deal with is a very well know neurologist- I'd like to get a 2nd opinion but I don't know whom else to turn to.
    I'm not sure why he was diagnosed with epilepsy if he hasnt had a seizure! @Libra926 Vegas has epilepsy ( he has seizures) and was taking those same meds to help control them! I dont think Douglas should have been diagnosed with that or even taking those meds! I was told by a bully nurologist that those meds are for seizures not fly biting! Fly biting could be out of boredom when not associated with seziures! Brutus does it at random for instance someone comes over and doesnt pay attention to him it happens! He is stiing there wathcing tv bored it happens no real reason as to why or how! We just give him a kong filled with treats and it stops and usually doesnt happen the rest of the night! Brutus is now 2 and he has them maybe 2-3 x a week but never more than 1 a day! I would monitor him and see how it works after distracting him with treats and such! The dr told me not to make a big deal out of it as some dogs tend to do things to gain attention (i dont belive it but you never know) Where do you live? Do you have any bulldog rescues in your area that could reccomend a bulldog specialist vet
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    Apparently it's a form of seizure. It can be labeled under petite cluster seizures too. 3 doctors have told me the same thing and the Internet does too (shame on me) but yes, that's All e does. I'd hate to have him on something that he doesn't have to be. I live in Philadelphia. My neurologist also suggest that I get a MRI because he is still having break through "seizures" being on the meds.

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    Apparently it's a form of seizure. It can be labeled under petite cluster seizures too. 3 doctors have told me the same thing and the Internet does too (shame on me) but yes, that's All e does. I'd hate to have him on something that he doesn't have to be. I live in Philadelphia. My neurologist also suggest that I get a MRI because he is still having break through "seizures" being on the meds.
    They had told us to do an MRI after Brutus had his seziures (not fly biting) but were then told if he had a brain tumor we would know by now! Wouldnt be able to walk and such! I am confused you had said he didnt have any seziures (not fly biting) A seizure is when he loses control of his body and may potty himself or foam at the mouth???
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    Apparently it's a form of seizure. It can be labeled under petite cluster seizures too. 3 doctors have told me the same thing and the Internet does too (shame on me) but yes, that's All e does. I'd hate to have him on something that he doesn't have to be. I live in Philadelphia. My neurologist also suggest that I get a MRI because he is still having break through "seizures" being on the meds.
    Since you are in Philly.... unless you are going to a neuro at UP... there is one in Valley Forge/Audubon at Metropolitian Vet that is very good, but the best that I know of is in Tinton Falls NJ... Red Bank Vet.
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    Since you are in Philly.... unless you are going to a neuro at UP... there is one in Valley Forge/Audubon at Metropolitian Vet that is very good, but the best that I know of is in Tinton Falls NJ... Red Bank Vet.
    Also I go to Richmond Valley in Staten Island . The director has owned and breeded bullies for 25 years very knowledgeable there!!! Tinton Falls (Garden State Vet) is where Brutus goes for nureolgist and they are amazing!!!
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    No I've never seen him have a seizure. He has had some accidents on the sofa where he sleeps but I assumed that was due from the massive amounts of water he drinks. When your dog has a seizure, is he usually unconscious?

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    Have no experience just wanted to say I'm sorry for you & your bully.

    Will pray he gets properly dx'ed and proper meds or treatment that is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullyLove143 View Post
    Apparently it's a form of seizure. It can be labeled under petite cluster seizures too. 3 doctors have told me the same thing and the Internet does too (shame on me) but yes, that's All e does. I'd hate to have him on something that he doesn't have to be. I live in Philadelphia. My neurologist also suggest that I get a MRI because he is still having break through "seizures" being on the meds.
    May be a stupid question, but have you taken him to the vets at Penn? I've never had to go, but I have friends who swear by them!

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