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    I'm so sorry to see this... I had a diabetic cat that would go into seizure's at times if his insulin was off. It is the scariest thing to watch, you feel absolutely helpless. Hopefully this was a one time episode... Hugs to you guys ; )


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokismom View Post
    So Loki came to work with me yesterday he was completely fine, he didn't take his normal naps but that happens when there are a lot of people in here. On the way home I could tell that he was really tired so when we got home we did our business and I left him to go to the family garden and help my aunt. When I came home about 3 hours later something happened. I walked in the door like normal and he was sleeping in his "house" with the door open I asked him why he wasn't coming to say hi, which is very out of the ordinary for him, he got up and came out of his house but he looked very scared and almost confused then I noticed his head was shaking but the rest of his body was fine, he sound like he was having a hard time catching his breath, I felt his throat and stuck my hand in his mouth to see if there was something in there but found nothing. The then locked up his shoulder and laid down slowly but weird and continued to shake head and now his legs, he never lost eye contacts with me, (I was trying to stay calm for him but was in sheer panic mode I called the neighbors and had them come over) by the time they got there he was done shaking but he stood up and tried to hide inside of me and he peed all over me ( Loki has never peed in the house ever!) Then after he was done peeing he was totally normal like nothing happened he went and drank water, ate, went out and pooped. This whole ordeal lasted all of maybe 45 seconds to a minute but it felt like forever. He didn't get into anything and he hasn't had benedryl for over a 2 weeks now, he did have his health check up and everything was fine he was given his heartguard but that was I think 2 weeks ago.
    I watched and read so much last night and it seems like it might have been a head tremor or a seizure I am not sure. I called the vet this morning and recounted the ordeal to her and she said at this point there is not much we can do other then take a look at him. He did come with me to work today and he has been very tired but playful when he needs to be and he slept really well last night. Sorry if I am all over the place or left something out
    Any ideas what the hell happened to our little boy?
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    If it happens again. Offer him a favorite treat but do not give it to him until he comes around fully. If this stops the head movement it is most likely head tremor which happens in bullies. If his head continues to move and jerk it is more likely to be a seizure. Your vet will have a more accurate diagnosis for you if you can take a video of it. Losing control of the bladder happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokismom View Post
    Part of me was thinking that maybe he didn't hear me some home and he was in such a deep sleep that I startled him and that's why it happened but nothing like this has happened to him before and I came in the same way I always do.
    Here is a head tremor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YSMul6GDsY

    Here is a grand mal seizure, this is graphic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p41l74tHugY
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    It wasn't the second one for sure! That made me tear up poor baby. It started like a head tremor but he did go to the ground and almost looked like he was trying to run in a way he didn't foam or drool anymore then normal I don't think. I did get some honey today and put it in my purse and our vehicles I am hoping it had something to do with his food since I was 30 mins late which never happens.
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    How scary for you and Loki. My mother has had epilepsy her whole life and each time she has a seizure its still nerve racking to us.

    I hope it was a one time thing for Loki. My Lab had a bad reaction to some medication he was taking and had head tremors scared the living day lights out of me and my husband. Luckily we video taped it and showed it to the emergency vet who told us to give him honey or corn syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokismom View Post
    It wasn't the second one for sure! That made me tear up poor baby. It started like a head tremor but he did go to the ground and almost looked like he was trying to run in a way he didn't foam or drool anymore then normal I don't think. I did get some honey today and put it in my purse and our vehicles I am hoping it had something to do with his food since I was 30 mins late which never happens.
    I am sorry I know the video were tough but I wanted you to see the difference between the two. Here is an article about them. http://www.englishbulldognews.com/co...glish-Bulldogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by christyjulene View Post
    I am sorry I know the video were tough but I wanted you to see the difference between the two. Here is an article about them. http://www.englishbulldognews.com/co...glish-Bulldogs
    Thanks your video and articles have helped me a lot in a weird calming sort of way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokismom View Post
    Thanks your video and articles have helped me a lot in a weird calming sort of way!
    Lokis reminds me a lot of Vegas actions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokismom View Post
    Lokis reminds me a lot of Vegas actions
    Knowing what is going on makes things less scary for me. I'm glad the video and articles helped.
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    Seizures are a furmoms worst nightmare. My first dog weighed 3.5 pounds and was a complete angel. A black Pomeranian who NEVER BARKED. Never got too excited. Cuddle monster. But he had seizures very often. They started as petit mal. We thought he was just off in his own world but he was actually having small seizures. They did get a bit worse but mostly just laying down shaking a little with some foam in his mouth. I hope your little Loki didn't have a seizure but if he did its important to make sure if it happens again or worsens that you stimulate the brain as little as possible. Low lighting. Little to no noise. As little touch as possible although if they're violent you will need to make sure he doesn't hurt himself. Keeping it calm will help his brain come out of it and not get excited. It doesn't have to be a devastating thing but it is no doubt a scary thing. Good luck!

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    Wow great advice above from everyone, I do hope it was a tremor. Either way, its scary. I'm sure @Libra926 who owns Vegas will want to see this post too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christyjulene View Post

    Here is a grand mal seizure, this is graphic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p41l74tHugY


    This is actually my video! This video is typical of a grand mal seizure for us. Vegas has never lost control of his bladder but he sometimes loses control of his bowels. Video like this one will help Loki's Dr diagnose him. Usually by listening to how people are describing the actions....I can tell (by comparing them to those of Vegas's) if it is indeed, without a doubt....a grand mal seizure.

    With yours....I'm not so sure. One important thing that is missing is the sign of mouth foam. But...since you weren't there to witness what actually happened, it could have been present, just unnoticed.

    If he was having a hard time breathing...that could easily explain the locking of the shoulder and laying down. Almost as if he sorta passes out from lack of oxygen. My PITA Orion has done this. It happened to her when she was in the "pre-throwing up" stage. The stomach rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling. She ended up passing out from no oxygen, but before she hit the ground she was already out of it. That could be a possibility. It could be a petit mal type seizure. Basically....really spaced out, but again....it doesn't sound like anything I've experienced before with Vegas.

    My concern is....if he was struggling for air, why? Was he given something at the office that he could have had an allergy too? Did he come into contact with any bees? Another possibility.....did you wake him up from a dream and he was very confused and afraid? Orion will sometimes wake up with such force, catapult to her feet and be on the defense. She will bark and act frantic for no reason. It literally takes a few minutes for us to calm her down. Could this be a possibility....on top of waking up, confused and also seeing your neighbors. So much happening at once....so many actions and reactions.

    It's great that he can go to work with you. If possible...I'd take him with you the rest of the week. Make him sleep next to you so you can monitor any change in breathing and can assist if something happens. And get a point and shoot camera...keep it charged and on you/next to you at all times.

    Keep us posted and if you have any other questions...tag me or pM me. Good luck. Kisses to Loki.


    PS....I always hold Vegas during a seizure if possible. They tend to fall to their back during a grand mal and Vegas aspirated and almost died when he was a year old. Ever since then.....I hold him upright if possible.
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