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    Hello everyone!
    This is my first post to reach out for some help and advice.
    My husband and I rescued a 2.5 year old English Bully off of Craigslist about 2 weeks ago. He came to us from his previous owners saying that he had absolutely no health problems. I've never owned an EBD, but I've been in rescue long enough to know some general things about the breed, and my husband has owned 2 in the past. My first step was to switch his food (from Ol Roy- poor guy) to Premium Edge Skin and Coat- which is a salmon based diet. Upon doing my research, I have started including glucosamine chondroitin in his morning feeding, and a probiotic & omega 3 in his nightly feeding. I also have been rotating a boiled egg, yogurt, and canned pumpkin every other night for additional nutrition- he is a BIG eater! LOL....

    Second step was to get him to the vet for neutering. The vet wasn't able to do his neutering due to an elongated soft palate, which needs to be surgically removed. I was also informed of his inverted tail- which is pretty nasty, and no matter how much I clean it, it seems to just stay pretty gross. The vet says he has a pretty bad case of dermatitis, and probably needs to have the tail amputated. He also had an inter-digital cyst, and has a cherry eye come up (usually only at night- then he wakes up looking all better). The vet has put him on antibiotics, as well as a steroid ointment for his eye. I have been bathing him every other day in a medicated shampoo (ketoconazole), and have ordered some Duoxo shampoo and spray- to help as much as I can with his yeast build up. I also started applying Desitin to his nose fold (which is rather prominent) as well as his poor little tail.

    I will do whatever it takes to get this guy healthy. I guess my biggest questions are as follows:
    1.) Is going grain-free with their diet the right thing to do, or is that too much protein for the Bulldogs? This is a link to what I'm currently feeding, which I'm able to find at a small pet supply store here in town: http://www.premiumedgepetfood.com/pr...ables_formula/

    2.) Have any of you gone through with an amputation of an imbedded/inverted tail? I have read some horror stories about this, and I'm trying to weigh the options of which is better- surgery, or dealing with this hot mess forever?? I don't mind cleaning him regularly, but sometimes I can barely remember to take my own vitamins- having Chunk is like having a kid right now with all of his maintenance!

    3.) Most things I read about repairing a soft palate sounds positive- any advice here? He is scheduled for surgery on June 12th, along with his tail amputation, and neutering.

    I know this was a super long post- I thought it probably required a lot of information. I might still be missing something, but any and all advice on my Chunky would be much appreciated! We adore him, and want to give him the best life possible, and seems as though all we're doing right now is making up for the lack of care by his previous "owners"....jerks.
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    that is a lot to handle all at once! I will tag a couple people who hopefully can respond soon to issues I have no experience with.

    Most of us do feed grain free because many bully's are intolerant of them.
    Best of luck getting Chunk healthy. I'm sure he is already much happier!

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    I'm wondering if what you're seeing isn't cherry eye, but rather his third eyelid since its only noticeable when he's half asleep. I know it's the case with my boys. Nonetheless, if its not bothering him, and not there during the day or when he's awake, I would leave it as is. Is that what the antibiotics was for?

    And food is always the tricky issue with our babies. Grain free doesn't necessarily mean better. But as long as theyre not allergic to any of the ingredients and they're thriving on it, then continue with the food. But I would suggest to check what rating the food is under. The marketing gurus can be sneaky. Lol. What looks healthy on the outside doesn't necessarily mean its healthy in the inside.

    And for the tail amp, if you're able to keep it clean, then I recommend to continue to do so. Tail amps should be the last resort. It's part of the spine and complications may arise from surgery. A recent members bully had to get his done only because his tail pocket was a finger length deep! And they tried everything possible to keep it clean.


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    Welcome to ! I don't have any experience with these issues, but I know that Gio, @mcraven2 's bully just underwent a tail amputation. Maybe she will chime in and give you some advice.


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    We had Tyson's tail amputated a year ago. It was the best thing we ever did. It changed his whole personality. It was so infected and inverted he was miserable. I have to tell you the stitches really scared me. I was afraid to take him home. It looked terrible. But a couple weeks of TLC and he was a happy dog. You will need to do the other surgery with his pallet. We had a female who had the same thing. Without the surgery it will cause alot of breathing issues and it is tricky enough for a bully to go into surgery withoout breathing issues. Gingers was so bad that she would pass out running across the room. We have adopted and rescued all of our 6 bullies in the last 20 years. I find it heartbreaking what condition they are in when people discard them. They are high maintence and expensive but oh so loving. Tyson also had cherry eye in both eyes and there was surgery to correct it. Also scarey but worth it. We have alot of experience with many different problems. I had one with cushings, one with cancer and even an Autistic bully. Feel free to email me if you like.

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    It's definitely cherry eye- it's just more prominent at night. It's not quite as enlarged during the day- unless he gets excited or plays with the other dogs. I was given a steroid ointment for his eye, but the dogs chewed that up today.....so, a phone call to the vet was just made for more expensive meds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaverell View Post
    We had Tyson's tail amputated a year ago. It was the best thing we ever did. It changed his whole personality. It was so infected and inverted he was miserable. I have to tell you the stitches really scared me. I was afraid to take him home. It looked terrible. But a couple weeks of TLC and he was a happy dog. You will need to do the other surgery with his pallet. We had a female who had the same thing. Without the surgery it will cause alot of breathing issues and it is tricky enough for a bully to go into surgery withoout breathing issues. Gingers was so bad that she would pass out running across the room. We have adopted and rescued all of our 6 bullies in the last 20 years. I find it heartbreaking what condition they are in when people discard them. They are high maintence and expensive but oh so loving. Tyson also had cherry eye in both eyes and there was surgery to correct it. Also scarey but worth it. We have alot of experience with many different problems. I had one with cushings, one with cancer and even an Autistic bully. Feel free to email me if you like.

    Thank you!!! I am terrified to mess this guy up. We have tried rescuing 2 other (very sick) Bullies over the past year, and both of them ended up dying- 1 from Liver Cancer, and the other from heart failure. So, my husband and I are so scared of anything happening to him. I know the palate surgery is the most important, and I wanted to get it all done at the same time, to reduce the use of anesthesia. I am SO ready for him to be neutered- those things have GOT to GO!

    An autistic dog?! That's not something I've ever seen before, but I'm pretty sure if it can happen- it will happen in this breed!! LOL
    Xtina & Chunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by savemejeebus View Post
    I'm wondering if what you're seeing isn't cherry eye, but rather his third eyelid since its only noticeable when he's half asleep. I know it's the case with my boys. Nonetheless, if its not bothering him, and not there during the day or when he's awake, I would leave it as is. Is that what the antibiotics was for?

    And food is always the tricky issue with our babies. Grain free doesn't necessarily mean better. But as long as theyre not allergic to any of the ingredients and they're thriving on it, then continue with the food. But I would suggest to check what rating the food is under. The marketing gurus can be sneaky. Lol. What looks healthy on the outside doesn't necessarily mean its healthy in the inside.

    And for the tail amp, if you're able to keep it clean, then I recommend to continue to do so. Tail amps should be the last resort. It's part of the spine and complications may arise from surgery. A recent members bully had to get his done only because his tail pocket was a finger length deep! And they tried everything possible to keep it clean.


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    Thank you!!! I am going to keep researching this whole tail issue. So far, nothing I've done for the past 2 weeks has worked well enough. His pocket is very deep- not a full finger length- more like 1/2 - 3/4 finger length. It was shocking to me at first- especially since our Boxer's tail is docked, and our other dog has a normal long tail. Bathing him every other day is a big enough chore, applying diaper rash ointment every night, and cleaning it out with a baby wipe every morning- it's like having a child!! LOL....

    He isn't exhibiting any signs of being allergic to the food, and I know it's a good quality food- I believe it received 4 stars on the rating scale (out of 5). Of course, switching to a 5 star rated food would be a grain free diet, which I'm certainly on board with. I think I'm going to have to start shopping at Goodwill for myself, while my dogs get premium everything!!! LOL
    Xtina & Chunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtina615 View Post
    I think I'm going to have to start shopping at Goodwill for myself, while my dogs get premium everything!!! LOL
    That a girl ... Welcome to bully parenthood! Seriously, most bullies here eat better than their owners!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtina615 View Post
    Hello everyone!
    This is my first post to reach out for some help and advice.
    My husband and I rescued a 2.5 year old English Bully off of Craigslist about 2 weeks ago. He came to us from his previous owners saying that he had absolutely no health problems. I've never owned an EBD, but I've been in rescue long enough to know some general things about the breed, and my husband has owned 2 in the past. My first step was to switch his food (from Ol Roy- poor guy) to Premium Edge Skin and Coat- which is a salmon based diet. Upon doing my research, I have started including glucosamine chondroitin in his morning feeding, and a probiotic & omega 3 in his nightly feeding. I also have been rotating a boiled egg, yogurt, and canned pumpkin every other night for additional nutrition- he is a BIG eater! LOL....

    Second step was to get him to the vet for neutering. The vet wasn't able to do his neutering due to an elongated soft palate, which needs to be surgically removed. I was also informed of his inverted tail- which is pretty nasty, and no matter how much I clean it, it seems to just stay pretty gross. The vet says he has a pretty bad case of dermatitis, and probably needs to have the tail amputated. He also had an inter-digital cyst, and has a cherry eye come up (usually only at night- then he wakes up looking all better). The vet has put him on antibiotics, as well as a steroid ointment for his eye. I have been bathing him every other day in a medicated shampoo (ketoconazole), and have ordered some Duoxo shampoo and spray- to help as much as I can with his yeast build up. I also started applying Desitin to his nose fold (which is rather prominent) as well as his poor little tail.

    I will do whatever it takes to get this guy healthy. I guess my biggest questions are as follows:
    1.) Is going grain-free with their diet the right thing to do, or is that too much protein for the Bulldogs? This is a link to what I'm currently feeding, which I'm able to find at a small pet supply store here in town: http://www.premiumedgepetfood.com/pr...ables_formula/

    2.) Have any of you gone through with an amputation of an imbedded/inverted tail? I have read some horror stories about this, and I'm trying to weigh the options of which is better- surgery, or dealing with this hot mess forever?? I don't mind cleaning him regularly, but sometimes I can barely remember to take my own vitamins- having Chunk is like having a kid right now with all of his maintenance!

    3.) Most things I read about repairing a soft palate sounds positive- any advice here? He is scheduled for surgery on June 12th, along with his tail amputation, and neutering.

    I know this was a super long post- I thought it probably required a lot of information. I might still be missing something, but any and all advice on my Chunky would be much appreciated! We adore him, and want to give him the best life possible, and seems as though all we're doing right now is making up for the lack of care by his previous "owners"....jerks.
    I just have to tell you how cute Chunky is!!! What a great picture that is!

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    I can't give you any advice...but I do want to give you a Gigantic Bully . How very lucky this guy is that you came into his life.

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    Oh I just noticed your pic now .... he's absolutely gorgeous!
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