Help Needed! New foster with weakened immune system and mange

PeterPanAndWendy

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Next week we are getting a new foster with some pretty severe issues. He has a weakened immune system and mange.

We've never dealt with either so I'm looking for some advise.

I've done some reading so I know a good diet will have a huge impact on his immune system, which will help him battle the mange.

We have struggled to find Pan (our bully) a food that won't turn him pink and have turned to Canidae- Grain Free and a spoonful of greek yogurt, which is working well. Is this a good food to stick with for our new baby to help with his immune system? I think it's a five star food. We also do frozen beans, cherry tomatoes, sweet peppers, frozen Brussels sprouts, cantelope, pineapple, and homemade pumpkin dog biscuits as treats.

Someone posted an article by Dr. Larry Siegler which mentioned feeding greens, multi vitamins, and probiotics. Any suggestions on these (and where would you suggest finding them)?

I saw that I should expect to give him medicated baths three times a week, rubbing a topical ointment on every three days, and should get an antibiotic from the vet.

Am I missing anything? This poor baby is in really bad shape and I want to get him fixed up and feeling better as soon as possible. I figure I have a week to get ready...
 

cowsmom

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ok for the immune system a good food helps but i like the idea of greens, multi vitamin, and probiotics. the greens im assuming will be homecooked greens, the multivitamin hm alot here use nuvet and i used cosevite. the probiotic you can get at the store just a people one is fine. twice recommends one that you dont refridgerate but i just use natures bounty brand with 1 billion live cultures. culturelle, align are 2 good ones. the food you are feeding should be ok unless the bully is allergic to something. im also giving sarah coq10 50 mg a day but they may need more but twice can tell you better. im also giving zinc 50mg which will help the skin im told. now for the mange i think people have used neem oil on it to help get rid of it. hm thats all i can think of now if i think of something else i will come back.
 

Twice

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[MENTION=2291]cowsmom[/MENTION] gotcha on the food :2thumbs:

I wouldn't give a bath 3 times a week no matter what the shampoo was for. It will further dry out the skin and make things worse. Once a week in a neem oil shampoo will work miracles. That and get one of those slicker wire brushes. Brushing him a couple times a day will help distribute the oils in his skin and help him heal faster.

All animals have mites, its only when the immune system takes a vacation that they become a problem. The standard treatment from the vet is a few weeks of Ivermectin. My Abby couldn't have that so when mange hit her I cured it with coQ-10, vitamin C, weekly neem oil shampoos and frequent brushing.
 

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I don't have any experience with mange, but I would think the medicated shampoo, medication and brushing will cure this, the only thing I could add is apple cider vinegar or white vinegar rinse after shampooing. Mix vinegar with warm water and pour over his body, not the head or face, leave it on for a few minutes and then rinse off with warm water.

As for the immune system, a high quality food , probiotics, and plain unsweetened yogurt in the kibble will help, I also give my guys 1 Tbsp of apple cider vinegar in their drinking water everyday, it has a lot of health benefits as an anti inflammatory , a natural anti bacterial, which boosts the immune system, also salmon or cod liver oil added to the kibble will help the skin, and fur.

I'll copy and paste the benefits of apple cider vinegar

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By Singing The Praises Of Apple Cider Vinegar on Jul 6, 2008 in Dr.Jeannie, Dog Health - Immune System, Dog Breeders Corner, Dog Heart Health, Dog Nutrition, Doggone Home & Garden Stuff


Apple Cider Vinegar


Apple cider is known around the world as Mother Natureā€™s miracle medicine, a powerful weapon in the war against aging and disease that is more effective than many high-priced prescription drugs. When God created this fruit He designed it be a food and a medicine!
Apple cider vinegar (ACV) is golden liquid concentrated with the healthy goodness of apples. It contains more than 30 important nutrients, 12 minerals, over 6 vitamins, essential acids and several enzymes. Moreover, it has a large dose of pectin for a healthy heart, and thus, healthy as a whole.
Many vitamins, minerals and other nutrients and substances are available in ACV to improve the health of your dog. ACV can provide them with enzymes and important minerals, such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, sulfur, chlorine,
phosphorus, iron, silicon and other trace minerals. The vitamins contained in ACV are bioflavonoids (vitamin P), beta-carotene (precursor to vitamin A), vitamin C, E, B1, B2, and B6. Tannins from the crushed cell walls of fresh apples as well as malic acid, tartaric acid, propionic acid, acetic acid and pectin (fiber) are also contained in ACV.
ACV is cheap, easy to use and it really benefits our health in numerous ways. ACV can benefit both people and their pets. It is antibacterial and anti-fungal and gives the immune system a good boost. As a high potassium electrolyte balancer, it remineralizes the body and helps normalizethe bloodā€™s alkaline acid balance.ACV is the natural king of skin remedies. It is wonderful for itching and scratching pets as well as a superb skin and hair conditioner. Good old apple cider vinegar either straight or diluted 50/50 with water can be applied directly to the affected area and allowed to dry. It will kill bacteria on hot spots, eliminate dandruff, rejuvenate hair, skin and help sweeten and balance the pH levels in the body. When giving your dpg a bath, shampoo, rinse, then apply ACV either straight or diluted, followed by rinsing with water. Notice, any residue shampoo will be washed out and you will feel and see an increased softness and sheen to the coat.
Apple cider vinegar is a powerful detoxifying and purifying agent. It breaks down fatty, mucous and phlegm deposits within the body. By breaking down these substances it improves the health and function of the vital organs, such as the kidneys, bladder and liver, by preventing excessively alkaline urine. Put a tablespoon of ACV in your dogā€™s drinking water every day and you will no longer have those brown spots in your lawn from the dogā€™s urine.


This powerful potion also promotes digestion, assimilation and elimination, all the while neutralizing any toxic substances that enter the body. Cider vinegar has been found to ..neutralize any harmful bacteria that may be found in certain foods. While dogs and cats do not have to worry too much about the bacteria in raw meat, if YOU are in doubt, you can pour a little Apple Cider Vinegar over thier raw meal.
Cider vinegar can also be beneficial for symptoms such as tooth decay and splitting of your dogā€™s toenails, which can be symptoms of potassium deficiency. Potassium is essential for the replacement of worn-out tissues within the body. This mineral is also important to soft tissue repair, as calcium is to the bones and teeth which makes it a wonderful supplement for senior dogs.
Tests have proven that when potassium, in the form of cider vinegar is fed to livestock their appearance improves and their stamina increases.
Cider vinegar is thought to be beneficial in the treatment of arthritis, as a supplement added to your petā€™s daily water supply (or poured over the food) or with compresses soaked in hot vinegar applied directly to the joints. It is also thought to be helpful when used to treat allergies, osteoporosis, cancer, candida, high cholesterol, constipation, muscle cramps, colitis, diabetes, diarrhea, depression, dizziness, ear discharge, eczema, fatigue, kidney stones, kidney and bladder problems, metabolism, and stiff joints.
The supplementation of ACV has been known to naturally remove red tear stains from the inside out. It is also used by many to prevent fleas when used in a rinse for the dogā€™s coat.
Recently, Dr. Louis Ducarre of Geneva, Switzerland, author of the fairly new book,Natural Cures, Natural Life states that when mixed with honey, apple cider becomes potent enough to cure cancer, heart disease and other deadly ailments .
Natural apple cider vinegar is found in health food stores. It should be a rich amber color with the ā€œmotherā€ quite visible as sentiment on the bottom. The strength of vinegar is important. All varieties of vinegar contain about 4 to 7 percent acetic acid, with 5 percent being the most common amount. Acetic acid is what gives vinegar its tart and sour taste.
There is nothing beneficial about commercial distilled vinegars except for pickling, cleaning and disinfection ā€”they have no health value!
Bragg, Paul and Linda, N.D., Ph.D., ā€œApple Cider Vinegar, Miracle Health Systemā€, Published Health Science, Santa Barbara, California
Jarvis, D.C, M.D., D.C. ā€œFolk Medicineā€, andā€œArthritis and Folk Medicineā€, Published Fawcett Publications, Inc., Greenwich, Connecticut
Puotinen, C.J., ā€œThe Encyclopedia of Natural Pet Careā€ Published Keats Publishing, Inc., New Canaan, Connecticut
 
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Thank you all for your suggestions! Hopefully we get his poor guy up and running in no time!
 

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