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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    I am so glad she is getting the medical help that hopefully will keep her alive and well again.

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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    Quote Originally Posted by Heff102 View Post
    People have many reasons why they respond now or later. It is NOT our job as members to judge or belittle anyone for how they act on these forums.

    As for me I wish nothing but the best for both the bully and the owners but I will not criticise a member for not responding to how others see fit.
    As frustrated as I know many of you get when members post for pleas of help and then disappear, I have to agree with Heff here.

    Since we have no idea what is going on, you can only assume they forgot, got busy with more important life matters, or are caring for their sick bulldog, and maybe got help from another forum or friend....

    All we can do is hope they did get the help they needed when they were here, and that their bulldog made it through okay.

    As much as I wish each and every member who ever posted on EBN stayed, it is just not going to happen. I am just proud of all of you who do help out these bulldogs almost daily, (even knowing they may never come back). Or you may have just met one of your future closest friends. You just never know.

    I am a forum owner and I have posted on other forums before (not bulldog ones) asking a question and oooops forgot to ever come back and say thanks.... oopsie!

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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    The poor thing still needs lots of prayers and positive vibes sent her way. I hope the outcome will be a good one.




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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    Quote Originally Posted by cali baker View Post
    The poor thing still needs lots of prayers and positive vibes sent her way. I hope the outcome will be a good one.
    I know from my own research that her outlook is positive. There is the possibility (and probability) of a full recovery if the kidneys failed due to an overdose or other accident. From the little she posted, they got immediate medical attention and that is the key to her success.

    It won't be an easy road but the bumps will be bumps not craters and there is light at the end of her tunnel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice View Post
    I know from my own research that her outlook is positive. There is the possibility (and probability) of a full recovery if the kidneys failed due to an overdose, long term toxins or other accident. From the little she posted, they got immediate medical attention and that is the key to her success.

    It won't be an easy road but the bumps will be bumps not craters and there is light at the end of her tunnel.
    So reassuring to hear that Bev. She will be in our prayers xx


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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    From the quote that Jeannieco posted it looks promising!!!!

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    I'm glad the dog is getting help. I know its frustrating when we don't know happened but I'm glad we got updates this time thanks jeannie

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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    Quote Originally Posted by Heff102 View Post
    People have many reasons why they respond now or later. It is NOT our job as members to judge or belittle anyone for how they act on these forums.

    As for me I wish nothing but the best for both the bully and the owners but I will not criticise a member for not responding to how others see fit.
    That's ok, @Heff102 - you can leave the belittling to me! I'm happy to do it.

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    Ok everyone please let's keep this thread civil to all members as frustrating as it maybe to wait for updates on the things posted here. Please limit further comments to what we are all here for and that is helping bullies thanks.

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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice View Post
    I know from my own research that her outlook is positive. There is the possibility (and probability) of a full recovery if the kidneys failed due to an overdose, long term toxins or other accident. From the little she posted, they got immediate medical attention and that is the key to her success.

    It won't be an easy road but the bumps will be bumps not craters and there is light at the end of her tunnel.
    Quote Originally Posted by desertskybulldogs View Post
    So reassuring to hear that Bev. She will be in our prayers xx


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    I've edited this to make a correction. I somehow combined 2 thoughts into one sentence. What I was thinking was There is the possibility (and probability) of a full recovery if the kidneys failed due to an overdose or other accident. If it happen because of long term toxin exposure, birth defects or old age the outlook isn't so bright.

    I got interrupted in the middle of posting and put the 2 sentences together. Long term toxin exposure is just as deadly as congenital issues. I'm really, really sorry for the misinformation.

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    Default Re: Bully ate Mushrooms in the Yard and Kidneys are failing ...any been through this HELP PLEASE

    Wow Bacon got into a mushroom about two months ago and threw it up about an hour later. Gonna have to police the yard from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baconator View Post
    Wow Bacon got into a mushroom about two months ago and threw it up about an hour later. Gonna have to police the yard from now on.
    That's a very good idea. I dont usually do copy and pastes but this is something I just found and thought would be useful to share with everyone.

    Mushrooms Poisonous to Pets

    Dr. Charlotte Means, D.V.M., ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center

    They pop up everywhere - in yards, in the woods, in parks, alongside roads . . . and in salad bars. Some dogs, like some people, like to eat them. They can be a gourmet delicacy . . . or deadly poisonous. They are mushrooms.
    Mushrooms are hard to identify. They can't be differentiated by studying pictures in a text or on the Internet. Many species, both poisonous and nonpoisonous, look very much alike, and they frequently grow side by side. When a mushroom is obtained for identification, it must be identified as quickly as possible before it begins to deteriorate. Accurate identification of a mushroom usually requires a mycologist (a fungus specialist) or someone who has been hunting wild mushrooms for years. Mycologists may be found at universities and botanical gardens. Local mushroom clubs may be helpful in identifying mushrooms, as well. But if all attempts fail, what do you do?
    Presumed Poisonous

    Although most mushrooms are known as LBMs (little brown mushrooms) and are generally nontoxic, when I receive a call that a dog has just eaten a mushroom, I always advise decontamination for safety. This means that vomiting is induced, and unless the entire mushroom is seen in the vomitus, activated charcoal is given to adsorb remaining toxins. Once decontaminated, each dog is treated individually, based on clinical signs that develop. Poisonous mushrooms can cause four distinct clinical syndromes.

    • Gastrointestinal irritation. This is the most common syndrome and is rarely fatal. Vomiting and diarrhea generally develop within six hours of ingestion. The upset stomach lasts about 24 hours and requires minimal veterinary care.


    • Gastrointestinal upset plus muscarinic signs. Muscarinic effects - similar to those caused by organophosphate and carbamate insecticide poisoning - include excessive salivation and tear production. Pupils are often very small and constricted. The most serious clinical sign is bradycardia - a very slow heartbeat. In most cases, this clinical syndrome will develop within six hours post-ingestion and almost always requires veterinary care. The two most common species of mushrooms that cause this syndrome are Inocybe spp. and Clitocybe spp.


    • Gastrointestinal upset, muscarinic signs, plus depression and lethargy. Severe abdominal pains and signs of colic occur, as do severe bouts of vomiting. The mushrooms destroy the liver, causing the dog to develop jaundice (the whites of the eyes and mucous membranes turn yellow.) Because the liver produces blood-clotting factors, bleeding disorders can develop. Seizures occur due to the liver damage. The most deadly syndrome has a delayed onset of greater than six hours and up to 20 hours post-ingestion. Without prompt, aggressive treatment, this syndrome is often fatal. Humans may be given liver transplants, but this is not an option for dogs. The death cap (Amanita phalloides) is the mushroom most likely to cause this syndrome, although the false morel (Gyromitra esulenta) and Galerina spp. also cause it and may be found in areas that dogs frequent. To add to the confusion, some species of Amanita and Gyromitra are considered nontoxic.


    • Hallucinogenic syndrome. Mushrooms that cause this syndrome are known as magic mushrooms, blue legs or liberty caps, and are considered illicit drugs in many places. "Street" mushrooms are generally edible mushrooms, like those found in supermarkets, laced with LSD or other illicit drugs. Whereas dogs ingest other poisonous mushrooms in woods or the back yard, they pull hallucinogenic mushrooms out of backpacks or other hiding places. Behavior changes include restlessness and hallucinations. Dogs who are hallucinating frequently snap at invisible flies, may be extremely depressed, stagger when walking and become comatose. Muscle tremors and seizures also occur. Dogs who ingest hallucinogenic mushrooms always require rapid decontamination and monitoring by a veterinarian.

    Bon Appetit!

    Mushrooms in yards should be removed promptly before the dog notices them. If your dog becomes ill, and you suspect mushroom ingestion, place the vomitus and any bowel movements in a plastic bag for identification, and refrigerate the bag. Try to have the contents identified within 24 hours. Notify your veterinarian that your dog may have ingested a mushroom, so that he or she can be alert to clinical signs that may require treatment. Finally, go ahead and enjoy your salads and quiches and sauces - as long as the mushroom's origin is known!
    Dr. Means, a veterinary toxicologist, is a member of the staff at the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center in Urbana, IL.
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    ASPCA Animal Watch Fall 2000

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