i do agree that these shoddy breeders are mucking up things in the dog world. not only bullies but all breeds and yes if we keep buying them they will keep producing them. sarah has many problems. some allergy some physical. her sister from the same litter is perfectly fine so i do think her problems stem from the heartless woman (i use this term loosly) who had her before me. sometimes its breeding sometimes its what is done with them after we get them. sarah has allergies really bad and a torn acl (which was fixed but she will always limp because of how long it was left) and a broken leg ( also was left to just heal up on its own) so i struggle with her but would not trade her for nothing. i love her.
@ModernFemme - I think it's just semantics. I don't know that there is a standard term for "breeder types"; I was just sharing my own criteria which didn't include award winning dogs -- although the breeder I got Bea from certainly did have dogs over the years that had been top performers in the show ring. After doing all the research I could stand, I talked to the wonderful woman who started Cascade Bulldog Rescue and Rehome and it was Cindy's opinions that made all the difference in my final decision about what breeder to go with. If, at any time, I felt negatively about my decision, I'd have stopped mid-stream and started over. That "gut" feeling you talk about counts too! My intuition is generally spot on (there was a time in my youth when my life depended on it) so I appreciate your comment! I have heard horrible horror stories about Mennonite and Amish breeders. Doesn't not meant they are true. Like I said, even when you do everything you can, it can go wrong (like my Mable). Those folks should NOT have been breeding their female "Sweet Pea" and if I ever see them again, I'm going to thank them for years of heartbreak. As decent as these folks where though and as highly recommended as they came, I can't believe they knew they were knowingly breeding future congenital heart failure patients. But they certainly were. Sadly, I was not the only one that suffered this heartbreak.
Maybe the correct term might be: "Show Ring Quality Pups" or something - with regard to those 7K dogs you're talking about. (I've never, ever seen that myself) Bea was 3K and I've never regretted a penny --- or my decision to go with her breeder. I would do it again.
I'm fairly sure that Abby came from one of those pet store puppy mill or a sleazy back yard breeder because she is physically a mess. Renal dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, mild hip dysplasia.
Otis on the other hand is physically perfect (although sometimes I worry about his mental state lol). Before I signed the final adoption papers I had him tested from the tip of his nose to the end of his tail. He doesn't even seem to have any food allergies. I don't know his back story of where they got him from but I have a really hard time believing that someone would pay top dollar at a breeder for a dog then tie him to a fence for months on end, so I'm guessing puppy store for him too.
So to answer your question, I have one physically perfect bulldog and one so physically broken that she should't even be alive today.
For me, her name was Abby
10/24/2011 - 11/23/1012
Obtaining a dog license should require more than writing a check.
Usko just turned two and is other wise healthy, but has a defected HUU-gene that makes him susceptible to form urate bladder stones. All Dalmatians have this same defect. This condition is kept under control by raw feeding. He had his share of tummy aches, loose stools and flus when he was a puppy, but now he's great.
breeding pair so there's an offspring history to go by as well. I'm hoping the breeder's research and choices pay off with a healthy dog. Most of this litter went for $6,500 but one sent to Europe from the last litter went for $8,500. No way I can afford those prices. LOL
Larry has a mild allergy to beef but other than that is perfectly healthy We are looking at a brother for him and made me so sad when I found out his breeder had retired
breeding to get the most unusual dogs possible to charge the highest price possible. This type of breeding would certainly disqualify the breeder from membership in a reputable English Bulldog Association. Breeding for oddities is not considered responsible breeding. Chocolate and Blue are not acceptable colors in the show ring. I would have to think long and hard about supporting their breeding practice with a purchase. That's just me.
Perhaps this is one of those situations when "GUT" means a GREAT deal in the decision to buy process.
Clearly, you didn't feel these folks were jackalopes or you wouldn't have sought a pup from one of their litters.
I am one of those folks that loves dogs that look different/odd and those things used to be reasons to DISCOUNT the cost of the pup --- not add to the price. I'd be interested to see this breeder's marketing materials. I'd also like to see what an $8500 dollar dog looks like. LOL
@linwhite - I am happy that your pup is loved and healthy and happy!
As for the breeding conversation in general, it is my opinion that ALL Animal Breeders -- in any case -- should be licensed. And that process should include an inspection and a list of strict criteria --- as it is in many European countries. Many states are pushing for this legislation. Support yours! END PUPPY MILLS!!!!!
I wish my vet was young! He's getting old! He isn't a bulldog "expert" but he has seen quite a few bulldogs (it was the best I could do in my area as I could not find an expert). He is sucha sweet man who genuinely loves animals and is never out for the money. When Tonka first developed allergies I was calling him every week with questions and to find an antihistamine that worked for us and he was so patient. You are right, a good vet makes all the difference and i'm glad I didn't cause my baby any unnecessary pain or procedures!