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    I am glad he is eating! I came back to this post because it kind of freaked me out and I was going to say to please take him to the vet as soon as possible since he had not eaten or had a drink in a day. Bil-jac is a 2.5 star rated food. I would change that food ASAP. There are lots of choices that are much better for your puppy. Take a look at the articles section at the top of the page to see a dog food rating system as well as a nutrition article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorRay View Post
    I am glad he is eating! I came back to this post because it kind of freaked me out and I was going to say to please take him to the vet as soon as possible since he had not eaten or had a drink in a day. Bil-jac is a 2.5 star rated food. I would change that food ASAP. There are lots of choices that are much better for your puppy. Take a look at the articles section at the top of the page to see a dog food rating system as well as a nutrition article.

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    We put him on Bil-Jac since that is what the breeder recommended and was feeding him. We didn't have the additional issues until we started the organic (mostly wheat) treats Sunday. I have taken him off the Bil-Jac completely until he gets better. He really likes it but of course doesn't eat it now. I was able to get him to drink a little water by putting on the water hose outside and he followed me spraying it around the yard. Then he drank maybe 5 licks. Then I took my bottled water and drizzled it in front of him and he started drinking it pretty good. He is up and around a bit more. He ate about 1 cup or a bit more of the rice and hamburger mixture I made this morning. He finished the bowl so I added more but he didn't finish that one. I am feeling more comfortable now that I know he is eating and drinking (although drinking isn't as much as I would like to see). The breeder recommended a vet near us but it is one at PetSmart so I wasn't sure I wanted to use him. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I don't know how else to find a bulldog vet. I live just north of Dallas, Texas. Thanks everyone.

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    I would recommend another vet visit to a different vet and definitely the bland diet. Afterwards, and once he is able to eat without vomiting, is it possible for you to make Toby's food for him? I make Ambers food for her and have since I brought her home. I have several different recipes but for the most part find cuts of meat on sale (Amber has no allergies to any meat) chicken, liver and gizzards, ground beef, salmon; just about any meat will do and broil it. Get some frozed bags of vegetables and put it in there with a few potatoes and I usually broil eggs and cut them up and put it in her food. You can put some cheese in it or give cottage cheese too. I make her beef jerky with the dehydrator and it is cheaper than buying other snacks plus nothing I use has wheat products. The wheat products could be causing him some distress but I would definitely see a vet with good solid experience with bulldogs. I hope Toby feels better.
    It is possible but I was doing this for about a month and a half with my 13 yr old boxer (and our 15 yr old collie mix) when I decided I wanted healthier food. I just got to where I couldn't do it anymore (yes just lazy). Then he got sick so I started back but then we had to put him down a few months ago (hence the new bully). So, I would say it is possible but probably not long term.

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    I understand; I too have a senior, she is a Great Dane and 13 years old. She was having some digestion problems and besides old age, I wondered if it was the dog food and that is when I researched the home cooked recipes. I have experimented with some things and found as long as I keep both of them away from foods with grains they are the picture of health. I did substantial research on bulldogs prior to getting Amber (had Great Danes for 15+ years and our daughter wanted a bulldog) and found they are highly allergic to grains of almost any type. When I research the dog food there is a limited supply that is grain free and the ones that are grain free are rather pricey. So, by trail and error I found myself making her food and her coat is absolutely beautiful, that is when I put the Dane on homemade food too. I will admit I do travel and my husband stays home with the dogs then so I do back up their homemade food with Blue Buffalo dog food on those occassions. It comes in kibbles and can; Amber doesn't do well on kibbles, she gets sick because she eats too fast so I get her canned but the Dane does well on the kibbles.

    Good luck with the little one. Take Care.

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    Toby seems to be getting better and is up and around more. He still isn't drinking on his own other than the bottled water I mentioned earlier. I am supposed to receive his Bil-Jac from PetFlow today but upon suggestions from this thread I am not going to give it to him. I called PetFlow and they said just send back the UPC and donate the food and they would replace it with whatever I want, WOW! I will definitely be using them for all my future purchases.

    I am considering Fromm dog food for Toby but it seems there is only one for puppies. Should I go with the Fromm Gold Puppy food or does it not matter as much with this quality food? If not what Fromm food would be suggested. If so, when would I switch off of the Fromm Gold Puppy food?

    Thanks again, this forum is awesome! I am glad I found this place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGiant View Post
    I have never seen Bil-Jac at Walmart but maybe it is there. I get mine from Petsmart and recently ordered from PetFlow.

    I will be taking him back to the vet today if he doesn't take to the bland diet and drink some water. I have checked his dehydration by pulling on the back of his neck and it still springs back in to place. If anything it might be a tad slow but I don't know exactly what I am looking for. The vet we take him to my wife has gone to for over 25 years and doesn't gouge you on price, however we are thinking about going elsewhere for this particular issue. My wife is panicky when it comes to animals even if it is a baby squirrel/bird that has come in to our yard.

    He is eating the ground sirloin (90/10 drained) with white rice like he is starving. That is a great sign, right? Still waiting on the water, will see after he eats.

    How is he now? yes good sign that he is eating but I think I would take him back also if he doens't continue or doesn't drink water.. please keep us posted..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGiant View Post
    Toby seems to be getting better and is up and around more. He still isn't drinking on his own other than the bottled water I mentioned earlier. I am supposed to receive his Bil-Jac from PetFlow today but upon suggestions from this thread I am not going to give it to him. I called PetFlow and they said just send back the UPC and donate the food and they would replace it with whatever I want, WOW! I will definitely be using them for all my future purchases.

    I am considering Fromm dog food for Toby but it seems there is only one for puppies. Should I go with the Fromm Gold Puppy food or does it not matter as much with this quality food? If not what Fromm food would be suggested. If so, when would I switch off of the Fromm Gold Puppy food?

    Thanks again, this forum is awesome! I am glad I found this place!
    ooops just asked how he is now and when I got back on you had gave us the update!

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    He is about 90% back to how he was prior to this episode. That was scary! He is now playing almost like he was the other day but seems to quite after a few chases of the ball so he is almost back. He hasn't vomited all day. My wife brought home some Fromm Surf & Turf she found at Petland. He loved it. I realize I probably should have kept him on the plain diet but figured it was rated so high and didn't have anything in it (other than chicken) that we had been giving him and am pretty confident it is wheat he is allergic to. He started playing after he got the new food and drank lots of water. I want to thank everyone here that helped keep me calm and with all the great advice. I was surprised to see so much activity and quick responses. I will try and visit often to repay the favor to others that may have the same issues I have ran in to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGiant View Post
    He is about 90% back to how he was prior to this episode. That was scary! He is now playing almost like he was the other day but seems to quite after a few chases of the ball so he is almost back. He hasn't vomited all day. My wife brought home some Fromm Surf & Turf she found at Petland. He loved it. I realize I probably should have kept him on the plain diet but figured it was rated so high and didn't have anything in it (other than chicken) that we had been giving him and am pretty confident it is wheat he is allergic to. He started playing after he got the new food and drank lots of water. I want to thank everyone here that helped keep me calm and with all the great advice. I was surprised to see so much activity and quick responses. I will try and visit often to repay the favor to others that may have the same issues I have ran in to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGiant View Post
    He is about 90% back to how he was prior to this episode. That was scary! He is now playing almost like he was the other day but seems to quite after a few chases of the ball so he is almost back. He hasn't vomited all day. My wife brought home some Fromm Surf & Turf she found at Petland. He loved it. I realize I probably should have kept him on the plain diet but figured it was rated so high and didn't have anything in it (other than chicken) that we had been giving him and am pretty confident it is wheat he is allergic to. He started playing after he got the new food and drank lots of water. I want to thank everyone here that helped keep me calm and with all the great advice. I was surprised to see so much activity and quick responses. I will try and visit often to repay the favor to others that may have the same issues I have ran in to.

    Did you go cold turkey onto the new food? That could cause big problems. You need to do a slow transition..over about a 10 day period. Start with 3/4 old..1/4 new for three days..then go to 1/2 old and 1/2 new for 3 days..then 3/4 new and 1/4 old for three days..then all new! Always helps to mix in spoonful of pumpkin while switching. 100 % pumpkin..not the pie filling..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEISGREAT View Post
    Did you go cold turkey onto the new food? That could cause big problems. You need to do a slow transition..over about a 10 day period. Start with 3/4 old..1/4 new for three days..then go to 1/2 old and 1/2 new for 3 days..then 3/4 new and 1/4 old for three days..then all new! Always helps to mix in spoonful of pumpkin while switching. 100 % pumpkin..not the pie filling..
    Basically. I did since we weren't sure what the allergic reaction was. The Bil-Jac has corn which I assume could be an issue. I gave him beef and rice (homemade) and he scarfed it down when he wasn't eating a thing. I still have some Bil-Jac that I can mix in if needed but didn't want to take a chance of introducing the reaction again although I deduced that it was the treats with a lot of wheat (although just and assumption). Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobyGiant View Post
    Basically. I did since we weren't sure what the allergic reaction was. The Bil-Jac has corn which I assume could be an issue. I gave him beef and rice (homemade) and he scarfed it down when he wasn't eating a thing. I still have some Bil-Jac that I can mix in if needed but didn't want to take a chance of introducing the reaction again although I deduced that it was the treats with a lot of wheat (although just and assumption). Thoughts?

    If I were you..I'd do the slow switch with the beef and rice instead of Bil Jac. That gives his tummy time to rest a bit too. Don't panic if he has the runs because of the new food. But I'd just use the beef and rice ànd slowly add in Fromm. It's a great food!

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