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    Also wanted to add that this is a great article on this type of mange. It helped me to understand.

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    Having a compromised immune system (which allows the mites to overgrow) can be a hereditary issue. In Audrey's case it is. One of her litter mates also came down with mange. They didn't spread it to each other, but insted they both acquired crappy immune systems from their parents. It isn't always hereditary though.
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    I don't have any experience with this but just wanted to add my thoughts that you @Twice are the best mama to Abby she could possibly have. All that you and your family do for her is simply amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audrey Hepbull View Post
    Hi there! I am new to the forum but my new 15 month old, rescue bulldog has severe generalized demodectic mange. Like you said, all dog's carry the mites in their skin and they are in no way zoonotic (or transferable to humans). It sounds like your sweet baby already has some kidney issues, so it is very likely her immune system is compromised (and always was/will be) compared to a "normal" bulldog, and that is probably why the mange got out of control.

    You are NOT a bad mommy. As I said I AM new here, but from reading your post I can see a.) How knowledgeable you are in all the supplements you are giving your girl and b.) How very much you love her.

    It will be ok and she WILL get over this. I know how frustrating dealing with mange can be. Audrey is on Ivermectin too. She HATES it. It tastes bitter and makes her foam at the mouth because of the taste. She gets 2 baths a week. I really like Keys Metacare Shampoo and lotion spray. It is very soothing to the skin and all natural.

    Does your little one have localized (only in one to a couple spots) or generalized (over the whole body) mange?

    Hi. Welcome to EBN I'm sorry your Audrey is going through this too (love that name btw ).

    You are right, my Abby has kidney failure. She was diagnosed 3 months ago with Juvenile Renal Dysplasia. I think her mother was a crack addict or something because she also has congenital luxating elbows (the connective tissue in her arms never formed). She's doing great now or so I thought lol It never, ever occurred to me that her immune system could also be compromised and that bugs could affect her.

    Abby's demodex is localized to her legs. I thought it was allergies making her bite them so I just kept giving her baths and wiping her off when we came in from outside. Who knows how long this poor thing has been suffering with this.

    She doesn't give me grief anymore about taking her meds no matter what it tastes like. But for the really foul stuff, I mix it into a couple tablespoons of applesauce. She really likes that and sometimes I even add some ginger to it to settle her tummy. Maybe that would help with Audrey?

    Thanks for the article. I guess its safe to assume that this is something she will be fighting her whole life unless I can boost that little immune system somehow.

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    first i would say calm down lol,its not the end of the world,mange is easily treated and most dogs get over it well as many have said, ear infections are easily treated also,if its a bad infection then the vet can give drops to clear the initial infection,when the infection has gone then try extra virgin olive oil with lavender mixed in it ,put a few drops in the ear ,let it sit for 30 mins then wipe out ,you can use this mix to try and clear the infection ,use it every couple of days till the infection has cleared,then use it once a month,i always use colloidal silver in my dogs ears after using the oil mix ,most illnesses are the result of a weak immune system and this too can be rectified with the best diet and excersize that you can give your dog,i give my dog emu oil as she doesnt tollerate fish very well but both are a good suppliment,i do not know much regarding kibble as i raw feed which boosts the immune system,just try and relax,very hard i know but the more stressed you get the more stressed your dog will become,its all fixable it just takes time and effort,my own dogs immune system is weak due to vaccination damage causing allergies so i have learnt to take it in my stride now and not to panic,karen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice View Post
    Saturday I noticed Abbys ears smelled funny. I asked my son if he smelled it too. He looked in her ears and said they were filthy. I don't see how, I clean them every week. But anyway. He got the qtips and cleaned her ears (my oldest son, not the redhead ) Saturday night they started oozing, she started scratching and crying if I touched them.

    First thing yesterday morning I called the vet to make an appointment. Abby's ears are infected. But guess what?? She also has mange Positive skin scrape and all. I don't know how she got it. I don't know what to do about it.

    I have absolutely zero experience with this. I've had dogs my entire life and have never dealt with this.

    She gave me this ivermectin suspension stuff. She said its processed in the liver and shouldn't affect her kidneys but everything affects the kidneys. Then (as if I wasn't freaked out enough) she tells me that if Abby gets listness or starts throwing up to get her to a hospital immediately. Is that normal?

    Doctor says it's because he immune system is compromised? I don't get it. Is it compromised because of the ear infection? Diet? Did I do something to make this happen?

    I spend literally all day yesterday on the net trying to find out about this stuff and all I did was make myself itchy any time she comes near me
    Aw poor Abby! You are not alone here!
    My Lily has mange right now. I just found out on Monday.
    She was scratching her face like crazy and made it so raw.
    I thought she was trying to scratch at her eyes cause they run all the time.
    She only has a couple of spots on her face, it's the localized one.
    The vet gave me Goodwinol which I have to put on her face for a month!!
    It's orange so now Lily looks like a spary tan gone wrong. LOL

    I'm so sorry you & Abby are having all these issues. I hope things get better soon.
    You are so right it is always something.
    But you are a wonderful mama!!
    Hang in there and I hope things get better for you guys!
    Hugs!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by karenben View Post
    first i would say calm down lol,its not the end of the world,mange is easily treated and most dogs get over it well as many have said, ear infections are easily treated also,if its a bad infection then the vet can give drops to clear the initial infection,when the infection has gone then try extra virgin olive oil with lavender mixed in it ,put a few drops in the ear ,let it sit for 30 mins then wipe out ,you can use this mix to try and clear the infection ,use it every couple of days till the infection has cleared,then use it once a month,i always use colloidal silver in my dogs ears after using the oil mix ,most illnesses are the result of a weak immune system and this too can be rectified with the best diet and excersize that you can give your dog,i give my dog emu oil as she doesnt tollerate fish very well but both are a good suppliment,i do not know much regarding kibble as i raw feed which boosts the immune system,just try and relax,very hard i know but the more stressed you get the more stressed your dog will become,its all fixable it just takes time and effort,my own dogs immune system is weak due to vaccination damage causing allergies so i have learnt to take it in my stride now and not to panic,karen
    I would love to feed Abby raw. I've read so many health benefits of it. But with her strict phosphorous/calcium requirements I'm afraid I would screw it up.

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    Poor Abby!! I have no experience with this, but I hope she gets better soon! She is such a cutie pie.

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    @Twice So sorry you guys are going through this. I had an experience like this last week with staph for the 2nd time in less than 2 months. I was so frustrated too, esp. because I went in for something totally unrelated and got that news, just like you with the mange. Hope you guys feel better soon and your baby clears up quick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice View Post
    I would love to feed Abby raw. I've read so many health benefits of it. But with her strict phosphorous/calcium requirements I'm afraid I would screw it up.
    ***Link Deleted***t this is the forum that will help you ,there are so many people on there with so much experience ,take a look you may be surprised ,it may be worth asking a few questions ,karen
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