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    Default Re: OMG, Vegas needs surgery!

    Titan had both of his eyes done...think of it as an eye lift for dogs.....very minor surgery....a small slit under the eye...where we would have shadows and bags...they take a small piece out and a couple of stitches and boom...a week in a cone with sad bullie faces and they r good to go...

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    oh so how is vegas doing? i was just wondering if you had gone to get the second opinion yet @KMARINO

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    Ok I'm a little late to this one ... I can give you my take on the entropion. We did the surgery for both of Chunk's eyes - lower lids only. My vet recommended it (after about three rounds of infected wrinkles from the tearing and also three rounds of tests for tear production and ulcers. I found that I was spending so much money just checking his eyes, the surgery became a consideration. Plus he always seemed uncomfortable! So I took him to NY to "THE Bulldog vet". He agreed that surgery was necessary because of his obvious constant discomfort - even with the drops/ointment. He made a good point too - we don't know HOW MUCH it hurts them plus they really resent us giving them those drops. That's of course, all par for the course with bullies - most of them don't like any of their daily maintenance. . Anyway, he gave me the name of an eye specialist and he was FANTASTIC! He did the surgery and Chunk is like a new doggie now. . It's amazing the difference - even his groomer could see it in his demeanor by the next visit after surgery.

    I know how absolutely scary surgery is - and we hate to do it if not necessary. So take your time and decide what is right for your baby. There is no rush!


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    Poor Vegas . Just wanted to send my thought to you and Vegas hoping that everything turns out good for him.

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    Looks like you got a lot of advise.. I agree with everyone else. I'd get a second opinion! Tank sends hugs to Vegas! Poor guy

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    Oh, poor Vegas! And poor momma too . Yes, we are going through this with Gator right now. I have to say, go to a pet Opthalmologist!!!! No joke. I won't trust Gator's eyes to a regular vet. We will only go through a specialist. Mine is great and doesn't cost more than the vet and I was pleasantly surprised at the quote he gave us for the surgery. He is very cautious and wants to make sure it won't correct itself when his head fully matures. There have to be several in the Tampa area. I wouldn't trust a "new" vet, even if she is just new to you. I saw pictures of surgeries where they took too much and it is soooo worth it to seek out someone who specializes in eyes. Seems strange he hasn't had many problems and they are just now pointing this out.....

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    P.S. I have read elsewhere (and if anybody could substantiate or refute this, please do!) that in some cases, entropion is not hereditary, but the result of situational allergens causing the eye to spasm and eventually fold. In that case, you can usually alleviate the problem via drops and removal of allergens. Anybody know how true that is? (I was reading generally about entropion in dogs and I think that statement was made regarding retrievers.)[/QUOTE]

    Actually, the Opthalmologist did say this. That the allergies cause the lids to swell and therefore turn in more which is what likely caused Gator's ulcer. So, we are using the cream twice a day in both eyes and they tacked back one bottom eyelid to help keep it from happening again until we are fairly sure he has reached his full "head potential". lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorRay View Post
    P.S. I have read elsewhere (and if anybody could substantiate or refute this, please do!) that in some cases, entropion is not hereditary, but the result of situational allergens causing the eye to spasm and eventually fold. In that case, you can usually alleviate the problem via drops and removal of allergens. Anybody know how true that is? (I was reading generally about entropion in dogs and I think that statement was made regarding retrievers.)
    Actually, the Opthalmologist did say this. That the allergies cause the lids to swell and therefore turn in more which is what likely caused Gator's ulcer. So, we are using the cream twice a day in both eyes and they tacked back one bottom eyelid to help keep it from happening again until we are fairly sure he has reached his full "head potential". lol.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for the response. I actually spoke to Chance's breeder about it and she said the same thing. His eyes are less red now after using the gel drops so I'm going to assume that we need a new vet opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malaviKat View Post
    Actually, the Opthalmologist did say this. That the allergies cause the lids to swell and therefore turn in more which is what likely caused Gator's ulcer. So, we are using the cream twice a day in both eyes and they tacked back one bottom eyelid to help keep it from happening again until we are fairly sure he has reached his full "head potential". lol.
    Thanks for the response. I actually spoke to Chance's breeder about it and she said the same thing. His eyes are less red now after using the gel drops so I'm going to assume that we need a new vet opinion.[/QUOTE]

    I would surely seek out an opthalmologist for Chance. Ours doesn't charge any more for a visit than our regular vet does. He waited until the ulcer healed and the allergy meds took affect before he wanted to determine if Gator needed the entropian surgery or not since he had not met him before.

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