Any ideas puppy so timid

[Mishell]

Hi guys
I have recently become a foster carer for a breeding girl she was 26 weeks when she came to live with us and 3o weeks now she gets on famously with our other bulldog and besides the potty training and her timid ness she has been an easy family fit in
She is really timid so I think socialisation will help that
But , I have a 19 yo who she is so frightened of runs when he is near and has a little growl
When she is with me he can pat her and she is relaxed we have tried him being the one to give the extre special treats and most of the time she will go up to him to get it along with our other bully
Other times she will choose to miss out so she doesn't have to get close
I'm thinking a trainer may be needed any ideas ?

 

[Vikinggirl]

Hi guys
I have recently become a foster carer for a breeding girl she was 26 weeks when she came to live with us and 3o weeks now she gets on famously with our other bulldog and besides the potty training and her timid ness she has been an easy family fit in
She is really timid so I think socialisation will help that
But , I have a 19 yo who she is so frightened of runs when he is near and has a little growl
When she is with me he can pat her and she is relaxed we have tried him being the one to give the extre special treats and most of the time she will go up to him to get it along with our other bully
Other times she will choose to miss out so she doesn't have to get close
I'm thinking a trainer may be needed any ideas ?

Hi Mishell, aww poor baby, she was a breeder girl at 26 weeks old? So young. It sounds like she wasn't socialized very much and if she was used as a breeder she probably used just for that purpose so didn't have a lot of people love, or opportunity to socialize with other dogs. Maybe she is timid around other males due to a bad experience with a male in the past? She is still quite young, so there is a good chance of turning her around, with love, patience, and time. Training can always help, and the more time your son spends with her, the more she will learn to trust him. Continue to let him give her her food and treats, try hand feeding her, let him take her for walks, and when you are together let him pet her, hopefully with time spent around him, she will get comfortable with him. Sometimes timidness is just the personality of the dog. My female Blossom has always been a social butterfly, and she has so much energy and loves to go on long walks. My male Bulldozer who is Blossoms sibling and litter mate is the total opposite, he loves people, loves to cuddle, but doesn't like to walk, but he's always been a little skittish since he was a puppy. He's not skittish with people or other animals, but he's afraid of loud noises, like thunder, banging of pots or dishes in the kitchen, the vacuum, he runs from blowing leaves outside. Lol. He used to be really scared when cars whooshed by on a busy road, and he would try and run away from the road, but I continued to walk him everyday and now he's fine walking along a sidewalk when cars go by.
Hooefully with love, time and patience, she will be okay. Good luck.

 

[natski282]

Ok will be blunt sorry in advance
she had her first period and was raped , a male human was involved that is why she is terrified of human males, she was there to do that BREED.
Now any Male coming to be near her will have to go very slow let her come to them sit them down and let her make the moves and repeat that till trust is built and that might depending on hermake it ok for that male not all .
not sure you need a trainer yet just one hell of a lot of patience and love , especially from that 19 yo male and my bet is in time maybe a lot of time that 19 yo will have the most best buddy he could ever imagine and never ever forget that dog the rest of his life . Sounds like you are doing all the right things now to Me just have to have tons of time a patience , that 19 yo will be the key and from what you say i bet he knows the breed already as you have one . I have two dogs that love and trust Me fully but it took one hell of a lot of time for them to trust me as a Male and like your pup they came from similar backgrounds , they do not trust all males I have to after all those months reassure the dog that this person is a friend as far as I am concerned and it is ok , Odin had enough of aggressive Male humans when i got him and he scared poop out of me when I first got him , but he with time turned into a wonderful wonderful friend, Diva went thru the same crap only it was female humans with her, she was a breeders bitch also and had a scared attitude with female humans , she turned into my Mothers best buddy due to time and understanding from the Human part .
Sorry to be blunt you are doing the right things in my view and so is your 19 yo hard to be patient at that age but it is a must it depends on him and how he takes his time with the pup , and i kid you not he will have a total friend for life it he does take his time .
keep us up to date please ans send pic we love pics here .

 

[Mishell]

No sorry didn't explain that well she is going to have puppies when she is around 18 months old breeder likes her puppies in a home environment so we have her until she is around 18 months then she will have 2 litters with a good break in between go back to breeder a week before puppies are due then home with us when puppies move on to their forever homes after 2 litres she is de sexed and remains with us
Sorry I wasn't clear their this breeder is amazing with her dogs

 

[Mishell]

I obviously wasn't clear I didn't write she def won't have pups till around 18 months just thought people would know that a puppiy so young would not have already been with pups , she is with us to live in a happy family life she will not be inseminated till around 18 months when the time is right she hasn't had any bad experiences with makes love grown adult men my 11 year old it's just my 19 year old and anyone around that age I was thinking tone of voice maybe

 

[natski282]

I obviously wasn't clear I didn't write she def won't have pups till around 18 months just thought people would know that a puppiy so young would not have already been with pups , she is with us to live in a happy family life she will not be inseminated till around 18 months when the time is right she hasn't had any bad experiences with makes love grown adult men my 11 year old it's just my 19 year old and anyone around that age I was thinking tone of voice maybe

Could be that deep male voice seen that before also, ok I see what you mean now I thought they had tried to breed her already. Dakota one of are dogs is pure and simple My Prettyones ( Wife ) dog right from the start and shied away from all interaction with Me , it took 2 years of work to get the dog to trust Me , Dakota again a save and when we got him just a puppy. Some dogs I have found just pick there person and have a timid attitude towards others .
Like Me I think lottsa love and touching and the pup will come around another thought is you son a tall big guy ? That could also be the intimidating part , get him to go on the floor anytime he is working with the pup , Where ever the pup sleeps in a crate or in a dog bed put one of his day worn shirts in the bed for her to sleep with , she will get used to his scent and relate that to him when she see,s him , that has also worked for Me .
Sorry about the misunderstanding . Let us know how it works out please .
Nat

 

[NewEnglandBully]

Going from one home to another could be the reason she is timid. Fosters and Rescues can be timid around men and other certain breeds of dogs. As Monica suggested, have your son feed her, walk her, do her daily maintenance…that may help to ensue trust and bonding.

 

[ddnene]

Many fosters are timid at first, trying to get their bearings... I will tag some members that are familiar w/fosters. I would say that patience will be needed for your sweet girl...

 

[brutus77]

She can take up to a year to acclimate to her new surroundings. Just have patience and give her space. Keep having your son give her high value treats and I think it will eventually work out.

 

[oscarmayer]

I recommend additional one on one time between your son and the pup. Make sure he has a pocket full of special treats that only he will give. It has to be something that she really likes. She needs to associate this special treat with ONLY your son.
Any time she shows secure confidence in his approach he should reward her. It would also be helpful if he's the one to feed her. He needs to move with predictable motions and speak to her in a calm (almost baby talk) voice. This can be overcome with a little time and effort.

IMO, the growling and timid behavior/temperament concerns me and would would have me 2nd guess whether this bully should be bred.

 

[2BullyMama]

I obviously wasn't clear I didn't write she def won't have pups till around 18 months just thought people would know that a puppiy so young would not have already been with pups , she is with us to live in a happy family life she will not be inseminated till around 18 months when the time is right she hasn't had any bad experiences with makes love grown adult men my 11 year old it's just my 19 year old and anyone around that age I was thinking tone of voice maybe

How does the 19yr old approach her? he is wearing a hat or sunglasses or does he have a deeper or loud voice, how is his body language? strange as it may sound, if she is fine with all but him... it may have to do with his mannerism or personality. Have him try to ignore her when he first arrives.. no looking or touching till she comes to him. if he has on a hat, take it off... sunglasses, take them off. There is something about him that causes her hesitation.

 

[Mishell]

I like that idea Nat, never thought of the shirt with his scent ole let you know how that works.😊👍

 

[Mishell]

We are trying no eye contact and ignoring her when he enters and for him to concentrate and give lots of
Loving to Chumley hoping once she sees how
Much. Chumley loves him maybe she may follow suit ��

 

[Mishell]

Thank you for your suggestions I will be giving hem all a go a special treat only associated with my 19yo and her
His Shirt in her crèche at night
1:1 time and walks
Ole keep you posted