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    Quote Originally Posted by punky View Post
    ya know as i was reading this it made me think of something my abbey did here a while back... she has NEVER shown any signs of aggression to anyone, she can get a little mean to one of the other dogs if they try to take her toy, but as far as people go never... UNTIL.. the grandkids came over.. i always put the dogs up when they are here but they happened to stop one day unannounced and the dogs were out.. i put them all up (4) except for abbey because she was somewhere in the house and i figured since she was the smallest that she would be fine. but as i was paying attention to the grand kids she lunged towards the youngest one, hes only 2, and at first i thought it was one of the little yorkie dogs we have that was standing behind our grandson so i corrected her and though i should put her up anyway.. then a week or so later they came over while dog were outside playing and we all went out and i seen her do it again.. luckly she stops before she makes any contact, like its just a warning that your getting to close to me or something.. i was really shocked at her behavior and when i said NO to her she immediately lowered her head and acted like she was sorry, or sorry she got caught,.. but i can not understand why she does this.. it was to she same little boy, the 2 year old.. he is in terrible two stage, but that's a whole different story and website.. lol.. i thought maybe he has hit her or something, because his parents let it happen at their house, again, another story, but we do not let it happen at our house and we will correct them when we see any sign of it... i think kids need taught how to behave around animals just the same as adults.. maybe i am old fashion because some people don't agree with me.. anywho... sorry about the rattling on but i'm thinking maybe my abbey didn't like not having the attention with her.. hope you can figure out what it may be soon.. love these furbabies just like our children..
    Our home situation has changed… Marcus used to be over at our house a couple of times a week, to NOW full-time living in our house. To make matters worse he was ALLOWED to act inappropriately IMO w/the dogs at his other house. SO every time he was over at OUR house I had to constantly correct his behavior. I say this over and over… people are f'ing idiots if they expect dogs to put up w/kids that are aggressive towards them

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    I agree.. sometimes i can't blame an animal if they bite.. its not aggression its protection for themselves.. there are alot of f'in idiots.. and its unfortunately in my house at times, because the kids are step kids so it makes it hard to keep my mouth shut.. except when it comes to my dogs.. i don't care who i piss off... truth hurts then so be it.. they can raise their children however they please and i will not judge but when its in my house and my dogs or even someone elses, i will correct child, or adult.. sad sometimes how kids are being raised today... sorry, almost lost control again and vented.. lol..

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    i think dogs can sense who is mean and not.. i put mine up when kids are around just in case.. kids now days are different then when i was a kid.. i won't go there.. lol

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    I'm sorry to hear this Tracey I don't really have any advice... Frasier that we rescued would launch at us when he felt threatened. He did it towards my husband in the car and towards me once when I touched the bed he was laying on. I know he came from a troubled place, I'm pretty sure he was beaten.

    But on the other hand the Jack Russel I had long ago in Sweden would go absolutely crazy if he got disturbed while sleeping and as far as I know nothing ever happened to him.

    Joey had some level of aggression caused by her hip dysplasia but she never showed anything against humans.

    I hope the collar will work <3
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    @ddnene How are things going with Wally?
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    @ddnene How are things going with Wally?
    My trainer Leah came over last night & worked for him over an hour… she believes his issues are behavioral, and she suggested having him neutered & back to basics training. I'm seriously stressed out about it…

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    @ddnene I'm sorry to hear that. Did she think that Marcus may have had something to do with it? He (Wally) is at the age of testing,also,and dealing with hormones. How was he with her?
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    @ddnene I'm sorry to hear that. Did she think that Marcus may have had something to do with it? He (Wally) is at the age of testing,also,and dealing with hormones. How was he with her?
    Marcus has been acting out as well (he's 4) so we have been trying to get him to make better behavior choices. She does believe that Marcus may play a part in this, she was watching them interact and saw some red flags. Wally absolutely adores Leah… but he was exhausted after she left… Lol We also talked about the fact that he's used to having other dogs around, and he's been solitary for some time. It's time to get him a friend…

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    My trainer Leah came over last night & worked for him over an hour… she believes his issues are behavioral, and she suggested having him neutered & back to basics training. I'm seriously stressed out about it…
    I wonder if Wally is jealous of Marcus and generally just stressed out by the change, the fact that he's around all of the time. Have you tried making sure Wally gets some one on one quality time with you daily so that he still feels like he's important to you? I know life is busy and it's hard to make time, but maybe just a short walk together at night or some cuddle time watching your favorite show. Let him know Marcus isn't replacing him.

    On the subject of neutering, some people will tell me I'm crazy or irresponsible for not having Ruckus neutered, but I really don't think it makes a huge difference in their personality. They are who they are, and I've seen neutered dogs show aggression. Just make sure you weigh the pros and cons. I know people have posted here that their bullies started showing aggression AFTER being neutered because they were older and the hormone change caused something to click on in their brains.

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    I have noticed that when my grand kids come over, my dogs get kind of depressed, Jack especially. He has always been good around them, but he does mope. I have 3 grandsons who are two years old. One of them has hit Winnie, which I corrected immediately, because he did it right in front of me. He also climbed on top of Jack and Jack growled at him for the first time ever. Maybe Wally is jealous, especially with Marcus being there full time. I have no solution, I'm just thinking out loud here. It's good that you have a good trainer. Sorry about the stress in the house--we have some real sadness going on here too right now. Sometimes now it seems like the dogs are the only ray of happiness and they relieve some of the stress. But when they misbehave, it just makes more stress! Hang in there, Tracey! @ddene

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    Quote Originally Posted by g8erjackie View Post
    I wonder if Wally is jealous of Marcus and generally just stressed out by the change, the fact that he's around all of the time. Have you tried making sure Wally gets some one on one quality time with you daily so that he still feels like he's important to you? I know life is busy and it's hard to make time, but maybe just a short walk together at night or some cuddle time watching your favorite show. Let him know Marcus isn't replacing him.

    On the subject of neutering, some people will tell me I'm crazy or irresponsible for not having Ruckus neutered, but I really don't think it makes a huge difference in their personality. They are who they are, and I've seen neutered dogs show aggression. Just make sure you weigh the pros and cons. I know people have posted here that their bullies started showing aggression AFTER being neutered because they were older and the hormone change caused something to click on in their brains.
    It's been difficult to find the time, but now that my hubby is home we are making a conscious effort… plus Marcus goes to bed early at 8pm. What's funny is that's the time when the aggression comes out… He could be bottling it up all day, knowing he will get in BIG trouble pulling that stuff w/Marcus and then waiting to let us have it at night. Marcus won't be living w/us forever, in fact we are hoping that they will move to an apartment soon. Of course he will still be at our house a lot w/their work/school schedules. My first responsibility is of course the kids…

    We had planned not to neuter, and mostly because of my past history w/bulldogs and surgeries. I don't think it's crazy or irresponsible at ALL, as long as you are a responsible pet owner (which I KNOW that you are) there is no reason to neuter just because our country thinks it's best. Many threads on here have discussed neutering, and I have read each one w/interest. I won't make this decision lightly… it's something we will discuss at length. I honestly don't think that the neutering will change his behavior, I think that training is what is going to change him. Leah said that mental training is more exhausting then physical… so we are working w/him daily. I feel bad because w/all the madness going on here I sort of let that slip… Ugh!!!

    I really appreciate your input on this, and I completely agree w/you!!! Do you feel that Ruckus changed when Regina joined the family?!! We are thinking of getting a female puppy… maybe a Frenchie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnam View Post
    I have noticed that when my grand kids come over, my dogs get kind of depressed, Jack especially. He has always been good around them, but he does mope. I have 3 grandsons who are two years old. One of them has hit Winnie, which I corrected immediately, because he did it right in front of me. He also climbed on top of Jack and Jack growled at him for the first time ever. Maybe Wally is jealous, especially with Marcus being there full time. I have no solution, I'm just thinking out loud here. It's good that you have a good trainer. Sorry about the stress in the house--we have some real sadness going on here too right now. Sometimes now it seems like the dogs are the only ray of happiness and they relieve some of the stress. But when they misbehave, it just makes more stress! Hang in there, Tracey! @ddene
    I appreciate your input here Donna, and I'm honestly thinking that you guys have hit the nail on the head. The ONLY real change that has happened is Marcus moving in, before he was only here for a couple of days a week. You can sit on top of them for hours, but let's face it… the screaming, tantrums, etc… causes stress in the house whether or not you are a canine or a human!!!

    I'm sorry about your sadness as well, I feel like I'm drowning to be honest… I'm sure that Wally is feeling the strain. We will get thru this, no matter what it is… one day at a time. AND of course there is always HUGS to you Donna!!!

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