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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    Exactly!! They really are like babies. They don't know how to express that they are tired and cranky. It really does work. Butter will not think he is being punished, he will most likely take a nice nap. I promise he will be fine. Isn't it funny how crazy we are about our babies??

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    I put a lil hot sauce on my are and the stops her from biting me. Now if i can only get her to play with other dogs.

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    Excellent advice!! I thought it was just me and Hurley that went through this. I too reached a point in training efforts where I just realized that I wasn't helping Hurley anymore. I cried, my hubby cried and Hurley kept terrorizing us. I tried all of the things you have tried. What changed was when she outgrew her "puppy" crate. It was a collapsable one/wire. We hauled out the next size crate. This was the plastic 2 piece ones. She hated her puppy crate .. she would pee in it as soon as I put her in it. And I swear she did it just because she could. LOL With the new crate she would just curl up and go to sleep.. now back to the terror. I kept using above mentioned training techniques and when enough was enough I too would just pick her up and put her in the "box" and I would say very loudly to her " BOX " an in she went. After about 2 weeks we developed a routine where she had actual naptimes. It worked so well that all I have to say now is " BOX " and off she goes on her own to her box. Also when those razor sharp puppy teeth were all gone it wasn't as stressful because I wasn't bleeding all day long.. I wish you luck and stick with it the message you want to give is " this is unexeptable behaviour " and this is what happens when you do it !! My first bulldog was a mush never an grouchy moment.

    p.s. she will be 2 in January and she still has her scheduled naptimes
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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    Quote Originally Posted by brutus77 View Post
    We never made it a punishment. The jail picture was a joke. our vet told us if redirection wasn't working to just remove him for 5 mins or so, so he would understand he could not behave like that and still interact with us. Sorry I gave you the wrong impression. He loves his crate and feels very safe there. He loves to go in and out when we are home.
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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    We should be careful when labeling a behavior "aggression". It would be the rarest thing ever for a puppy to be genuinely aggressive. Puppies are just trying to find their way in the world and are looking to their pack leader for direction. If a pup bites the mama dog too hard, she disagrees with the behavior and the pup learns.

    My Bea was a super mouthy puppy, very vocal when she played AND had an incredible prey drive. This trifecta of fun might look like aggression, right? Bea is anything but aggressive! She's as passive as they come.

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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    So the "aggression" continues but getting a little bit better. There are points where it seems like he's in a red zone and is just going to lunge, bite, and nip at every part of our bodies and clothing. We have started putting him in his crate without scolding or tension, just removing him from his biting ways and in the crate.

    He usually starts by chewing on the rails of the crate and biting the blanket. But eventually he finally gives up (even if it takes 10 minutes) as we ignore him, and as soon as he lies down, we open the crate door and let him out again. Yesterday when we put him in there he peed (assuming he was acting out) but we made him stand in his pee for awhile until he calmed down. He can't learn that we come when he pees.

    So it's going a little better for Butter. We are gone most of the day and we have a dog walker come twice, but I think he's a little angry being alone for so long or at least has pent up energy. We are starting the dog walker taking him on longer walks to see if that doesn't help.

    Thanks for the advice everyone!

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    Im sorry but how old is Butter? He probably peed out of excitement,after long play,chewing etc -it natural for puppies to do it , i wouldn't let my puppy stand in his pee until he calm down , i would have to clean the crate first (it is not very hygenic)
    I dont think he peed cos he was "acting out" he just cant hold it in as long -every time Lily peed i couldn't blame or punish her -as it was my fault for not looking for signs or taking her out after chewing,playing,eating or sleeping fast enough
    What im worried is the fact that eventually Butter will think of his crate as a punishment ,rather than "his safe place/den"
    Same with play biting-we all went through this praise , and all the advice that was given works with consistency and time,they all eventually stop
    Sorry if i sounded rude,i didnt meant to ,but the fact that you let him stand in his own pee while waiting for him to calm down i dont think was a right thing to do ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pati Robins View Post
    Im sorry but how old is Butter? He probably peed out of excitement,after long play,chewing etc -it natural for puppies to do it , i wouldn't let my puppy stand in his pee until he calm down , i would have to clean the crate first (it is not very hygenic)
    I dont think he peed cos he was "acting out" he just cant hold it in as long -every time Lily peed i couldn't blame or punish her -as it was my fault for not looking for signs or taking her out after chewing,playing,eating or sleeping fast enough
    What im worried is the fact that eventually Butter will think of his crate as a punishment ,rather than "his safe place/den"
    Same with play biting-we all went through this praise , and all the advice that was given works with consistency and time,they all eventually stop
    Sorry if i sounded rude,i didnt meant to ,but the fact that you let him stand in his own pee while waiting for him to calm down i dont think was a right thing to do ;-)
    Hey Pati, no worries on the comment, it's all appreciated. I'm almost certain it was acting out. He had just gone outside and peed before and he never pees in his crate or in the house anymore. What I didn't want to establish was that peeing gets him out of the crate. To me, letting him out right away would've been a positive reinforcement to a negative action. We didn't let him just sit in there, we took him out very soon after, but only once he was calm.

    I too have my concerns about the crate being seen as punishment, but there isn't really another way I've found to curb when he goes into "crazy mode".

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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    Maybe while hes naughty before you put him in a crate take him on a leash so he cant run around the yard freely ,just to do his business
    Lily sometimes can have one pee followed by another few minutes later
    Can i ask how do you reinforce positive behaviour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pati Robins View Post
    Maybe while hes naughty before you put him in a crate take him on a leash so he cant run around the yard freely ,just to do his business
    Lily sometimes can have one pee followed by another few minutes later
    Can i ask how do you reinforce positive behaviour?
    Well he doesn't really ever want to walk outside but we make him anyway. The leash indoors isn't a bad idea, it seems to stop any bad behavior we have outside just by correcting him.

    Good behavior rewarded with lots of love (and goodboyyyy) and sometimes treats. We've started using "inside" for his crate so he walks in by himself and give him a treat. This is working great for potty training too.

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    I was talking about going potty on s leash not leash inside ;-)
    Why i was asking about how you are reinforcing good behaviour -is i found that treats given fast enough when he behaves in the way you want him to to reinforce it worked wonders for us especially while potty training and teaching Shy -our deaf girl how to behave, the trick is while Shy was in a biting mode we tried to redirect it using a toy that she loved,but we used only to redirect and quickly gave her a reward so after a while she seem to get the idea that biting her own toys meant that she get a nice things and biting in us will not get her anything, and when she was behaving the way we wanted stopped while we asked her to stop biting we offered a treat (high value treat)
    Bare in mind that we went through a lot of treats having a deafie that was going through puppy play biting stage was a double challenge especially that we couldn't make any loud noises etc ,but in a way it helped us discover the power of rewards as a way to modify ger behaviour.
    Bare in mind that we went through a lot of treats so if you giving treats adjust the quantity of food accordingly (we didnt and that resulted in not very happy 6 months old puppy on a diet) ;-)
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    Default Re: Tips on biting and stopping aggression?

    Brie, who is 9 mos old now still does this kind of play behavior my 8 yo son and sometimes she hurts him. She has never broken skin, but it is still way too much shark mode if you ask me. I've tried all the same things as you did @elonepb and she stops or a brief moment but then right back to it. She has a domineering streak that contributes as well. I am going to try crating her for 5-10 min as soon as she starts up and see if she gets it. She is very smart and I'm hoping it works. I'll let you know I understand your frustration w the situation. Of course there are times I'd like to put my son in a crate as well as he eggs it on and then cries..lol if you find anything that works for you, please share cos I could use the help!

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