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    Hi,

    Is there a forum for puppy care? We went to the pet store tonight in prep for our first day with Otto on Friday. (i think that will be his name) We got a collar made by Ceasar Milan... my husband owned a bulldog before and he said we should get a choke collar for small dogs to help train the puppy. I'm reading online that a choke collar should NOT be used on a puppy. I did take a dog obidience class for beginners that said you SHOULD use a choke collar... the RIGHT way. Anyone?!

    Thanks so much!

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    There's a lot of people who don't like choker leads as it restricts breathing.
    My boy wouldn't walk no matter how I tried. My friend gave me a training lead and I never looked back. He's nearly 1 now and he's got a k9 harness which he loves. A great harness that doesn't restrict breathing.

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    There are many alternatives to choke collars. You defiantly want to be able to give corrections, but I would try other methods. Choke collars can cause damage. The first dog training class I went to the trainer wanted all the dogs to have prong collars. I find that verbal corrections when consistent are effective. I think it's better to train with positive reinforcement and redirection. Consistency is the key not the collar worn. I don't intend to sound pushy but I have a boxer who came to me with calcium deposits on her neck from injury sustained by a chock collar. :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamm10 View Post
    Hi,

    Is there a forum for puppy care? We went to the pet store tonight in prep for our first day with Otto on Friday. (i think that will be his name) We got a collar made by Ceasar Milan... my husband owned a bulldog before and he said we should get a choke collar for small dogs to help train the puppy. I'm reading online that a choke collar should NOT be used on a puppy. I did take a dog obidience class for beginners that said you SHOULD use a choke collar... the RIGHT way. Anyone?!

    Thanks so much!
    Did you get the "Illusion" collar? I've often wondered how that would work on an EB's thick, short neck!

    Every puppy class I ever attended required participants/students to use a FLAT buckle collar for the puppies in the class. I use Martingale collars on my dogs now -- but when they were puppies - flat, soft buckle collars.
    @Becky Zerkel Heft is right re: positive reinforcement. You get more bees with honey than you do with vinegar. (and have a better time of it!)

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    Just say NO to choke or prong collars. No need for them, as most pus... especially bullies, are REALLY motivated by Food

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    All my experience with training a dog has been with a choke collar. I didn't use one with my yorkie as he just listened and didn't need much. I don't like prong collars but choke collars can be used if done correctly. Do what's best for you and your dog. If good motivates do that. If clicker training works do that.

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    You don't sound pushy. I appreciate your perspective. Thank you!

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    The Caesar Milan one is actually called a "training lead"... its the same premise as the choke collar but it's not metal, it's made of a fabric. Are you referring to that type too? Thanks!

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    Hi, do you credit the training lead with his walking success? Is it the same thing as a choke collar where you have to loop it a certain way?

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    I prefer a well made prong collar, fitted corectly, and used correctly over a choke collar. for training only. Choke collars have far more potential for damage to the dog than a well made and correctly fit prong collar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamm10 View Post
    The Caesar Milan one is actually called a "training lead"... its the same premise as the choke collar but it's not metal, it's made of a fabric. Are you referring to that type too? Thanks!
    I have that same lead. I have not used it on my bulldog but did to help with my boxer who reacts to any noise she hears while out walking. It is helpful. There is only one problem with it, when it is put on incorrectly it does not slack after a correction is made and basically stays way to tight way too long and gets tighter with each additional correction. When you put it on it should slack to you so when you pull it it tightens. If you walk with the dog on your left side, the lead should look like the letter P when standing behind the dog.

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    Default Re: Newbie Here... Puppy... Choke/Training Lead

    Both my girls have harnesses for when we go out in public. All training is done in the backyard with no collars or harnesses but lots of......bacon bits and homemade beef jerky. My girls will do anything for bacon bits and beef jerky. They do run around in the house like hooligans only because I let them but they know my voice tone when I mean business. I rely mostly on voice command the majority of the time and only train them on with the harness and lead for walking only. They also know they are going somewhere as soon as I breakout the harness and leads.....they get all excited, they don't know where they are going.....all they know is its time to go somewhere. lol I confused them lately putting bandanas on them, they weren't sure what was going on, they don't like clothes. Good luck.

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