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    Default ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    I had 6 months as my magic number for potty training. I kept hearing that at around 6 months they just "get it" and start to either signal to go out or realize not to go in the house. We have neither. I have been all over this housebreaking. I take him out every hour, after play, sleep, eating etc. I do not let him out of my sight in the down times and he is crated when we are gone(no accidents in the crate, I am only gone four hours tops). Of course in the seconds of down time when I have to go to the bathroom myself or turn my head... he goes in the house. He has NEVER made a motion to let me know he has to go out. I have bells on the door and take him there to ring them, say outside, give him a treat everytime we go outside. He gets treats and tons of praise when he goes outside. He was averaging only one accident a week but this week it has been every day. I have never never never had a dog so hard to housebreak. He catches onto EVERYTHING pretty fast. What am I doing wrong? Is there an end in sight?

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    wanted to add that we did not get him until he was 13 weeks and he had never even been outside. the breeder was using pads I think. could that be a factor?

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    I can only suggest that you crate him whenever you can't watch him every second even if you are only going to the bathroom yourself. Then as soon as he gets out of the crate he goes straight outside.

    HRH has an iron bladder we think. She NEVER tells us she has to go. But we force her outside 3 to 4 times a day and she always goes. But she's 6 1/2.
    Amelia is still not getting it when it comes to peeing in the house, but it has been probably two weeks since she in the house, so I'm hopeful we are getting there...but she's only 14 weeks old.

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    You poor thing...well..I'm going to give you my standard advice. Leash him to you at all times in the house. I know you THINK you watch him at all times..but take my word for it..you don't. The basic housebreaking should continue. Then...in the house you and he are Siamese twins! Where you go..he goes! IF....you need to go to the bathroom..tke him out first and right in the crate. Then when he comes out of crate..take him right outside..then back on a leash. You will be amazed what you don't see. Treat him like an 8 week old pup. I know this sounds horribly inconvenient...but compared to having him win and never be housebroken...it's nothing! It won't take long..a couple weeks! Praise him and give him a treat when he gets it right..If you catch him starting to go..a small jerk on the lead..your best stern no..and outside immediately.

    You can do this..forget the bells..it will confuse him right now.
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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEISGREAT View Post
    You poor thing...well..I'm going to give you my standard advice. Leash him to you at all times in the house. I know you THINK you watch him at all times..but take my word for it..you don't. The basic housebreaking should continue. Then...in the house you and he are Siamese twins! Where you go..he goes! IF....you need to go to the bathroom..tke him out first and right in the crate. Then when he comes out of crate..take him right outside..then back on a leash. You will be amazed what you don't see. Treat him like an 8 week old pup. I know this sounds horribly inconvenient...but compared to having him win and never be housebroken...it's nothing! It won't take long..a couple weeks! Praise him and give him a treat when he gets it right..If you catch him starting to go..a mall jerk on the lead..your best stern no..and outside immediately.

    You can do this..forget the bells..it will confuse him right now.
    Great advice! Good luck to you!

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    You've gotten some great advice, few questions, is he always going in the same spot? What are you doing to treat the area after he goes to get rid of the ammonia smell? Is he having big accidents or is it just a small amount like he is marking?

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    he is not marking. he goes in different spots. I clean with a good pet cleaner. I will try the Velcro to me and see how it goes.

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    You have some great advice; the only other thing I could add is......patience, patience, patience and consistency. lol; all puppies are different and there is no special day he will "get it" but it will happen. One day you will realize he hasn't had an accident in forever, that is the day you know he got it. I would also recommend (if possible) to keep him off any of the carpets, Amber didn't see the backside of the house for a while because every time she put her paws on the carpet it was like an instant reaching to squat. We are getting Ruby there but it is taking just the same amount of work. Good luck and keep the mop in the ready position.

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEISGREAT View Post
    You poor thing...well..I'm going to give you my standard advice. Leash him to you at all times in the house. I know you THINK you watch him at all times..but take my word for it..you don't. The basic housebreaking should continue. Then...in the house you and he are Siamese twins! Where you go..he goes! IF....you need to go to the bathroom..tke him out first and right in the crate. Then when he comes out of crate..take him right outside..then back on a leash. You will be amazed what you don't see. Treat him like an 8 week old pup. I know this sounds horribly inconvenient...but compared to having him win and never be housebroken...it's nothing! It won't take long..a couple weeks! Praise him and give him a treat when he gets it right..If you catch him starting to go..a small jerk on the lead..your best stern no..and outside immediately.

    You can do this..forget the bells..it will confuse him right now.

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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    I did the bells with my pup and she caught onto it quickly and always rings them to tell me she has to go out. She's 7 months and doesn't have accidents in the house anymore. The only downside is that she knows the bells mean outside so she will occasionally trick me when she wants to just go out to play. ;-) We also did crate time whenever I couldn't absolutely watch her every move - even when I had to go to the bathroom. I think that really helped.

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    @erniesmom.... Jakeisgreat has you covered!! Good luck
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    Default Re: ok...I have reached the magic number and we are no better...

    Quote Originally Posted by erniesmom View Post
    wanted to add that we did not get him until he was 13 weeks and he had never even been outside. the breeder was using pads I think. could that be a factor?
    Absolutely. He was taught that it's okay to pee inside. That's probably where the confusion is coming from. You'll have to go back to basics. I suggest crating whenever he's out of your sight (since he seems to understand that we don't potty in our crate) and maybe even keep a leash on him in the house to be sure he doesn't leave your side. The key is to catch him in the ACT of pottying in the house. If you just find it later on, he's already forgotten about it. When he's going (or attempting to go), say, "No" sternly and take him outside. Then once he goes outside, praise praise praise! Maybe even get better treats (or use little bits of cheese - something REALLY good).

    Just be careful if he is pooping. Puppies have very little control of that once they start, so unless you want him to poo all throughout the house as you're trying to get him outside, it's probably best to tell him "no no no" and hope he stops on his own before bringing him outside.

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