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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    I've never had any other dogs than bulldogs so I can't compare. But I know bulldogs are much smarter than most people think and that is why some don't even try to train them, bc "it's no use, cause they won't learn anyway". Bollocks, say I! They are smart, learn fast and by themselves too. Good habits and bad, it's up to you. They are stubborn and sometimes make decisions for themselves. You need to have a good connection with your bully and they will do what you wan't them to do. They can get offended too if they don't like your tone...got to love them

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    @PsychoPixie - when I do training exercises with my bullies I try to make it fun for them and of course using treats is a great idea. go into training with an open mind and just don't expect too much too soon but bulldogs are really smart and they learn fast ... I've found teaching them a new command is the easy part, but I have also realized that they will analyze if using the new command in daily life will benefit them hence the stubborn side of them but having had many different dog breeds throughout my life bulldogs learn just as easy as other breeds if you don't go into it expecting too much too fast and comparing them to another dog you've trained because no two dogs are the same and they all learn differently.
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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    I didn't mean to imply that I didn't think they are smart. Looking back on what they were bred to do, you realize they had to be smart, or die. But they wernt bred to look constantly to their humans for advice, and that's where people usually get the idea that they are stupid lol
    I was just wondering how to go about the training, see if their was any specific differences in training a English Bulldog. Better to know and be prepared lol Have a game plan so to speak lol But I'm not above changing up the game plan if it needs it lol
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    I doubt anyone felt that way ... it's just always nice to hear what others do so you can kinda of go into it with knowing how others have gotten through to their dogs during training ... if that makes sense. Anyone who is owned by a bulldog knows how awesome they are and part of their "awesome" is how smart they are, but we have all heard at one time or another that bulldogs are stupid or too stubborn to be trained ... we bulldoggers know the truth
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    I think that if you approach it with the knowledge that they know EXACTLY what you want them to do almost immediately then you are off to a good start.

    BUT ..... then you need to accept that even though they know it, they may not necessarily feel like doing it at that time.

    Acceptance of this is the first step in becoming trained by your bully!

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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    I have had a few German Shepards that were all pure geniuses. All four of them, and the current one we have, are incredibly smart and learn so fast it isn't funny. Spielman is nearly as smart, he just doesn't like to show off I think lol. He is very stubborn. The treats work great for him too, but one other thing I have found that really motivates him when he is not wanting to do something, I yell for the kitty.

    If I want his attention, I am better off yelling the cats name than his. I can give him commands to come when he is outside etc, and he will turn around and just stare at me like if he waits long enough I might forget that I asked him to come. But if I start yelling for the cat, here he comes as hard as he can. He is a tad jealous.

    Last night my wife wanted her back scratched. He wasn't too happy about me scratching anyone's back but his. It was hilarious. He loves my wife and kids, but he wants top be the only one that gets his back scratched by me.

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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2BullyMama View Post
    There was a very smart person here ( @desertskybulldogs ) that placed it in the best words possible about training a bully...... 'they are not stupid or dumb... they are thinking and deciding if they want to or will do what you are asking."
    This is sooooo true. When Remi chooses to listen, which he does at least 75% of the time, the first time, my chest swells with pride. Like, I'm such a badass that a bulldog chooses to listen to me.

    Then you have days like yesterday... he just engaged with an older couple at the park and he just went bananas with excitement/anxiety. And then he found some gross dead thing on the ground, which made him TOTALLY ignore everything I was saying. I tried to get him to come with me, practically dragging. I had to sit him down, make him look at me and whisper in his face, "Omg, Remi, you're embarrassing me in front of these people. They probably think I'm the worst dog owner ever! Please, let's go!!"

    I know Caesar Millan totally would not have approved, but Remi eventually was like, "Fine, but you owe me."



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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    The only other dog I've really trained (or helped train as an older teenager) was a husky, and to be honest, both breeds need a firm hand at times and can be huge clowns. I have found that with the husky, I would sometimes need to submit him on his side, but with Remi, that is literally the worst thing you could do. I've found you have to be a bit more sensitive with bulldogs, but other than that, the training is pretty much the same.



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    Any dog can be trained, I have had several, some breeds are easier to train than others and within a breed some dogs are more tractable than others. Brutus my Amstaff was relatively easy, we kept him outside so housetraining was never an issue, he would always come and I had him leash trained to walk without pulling in a couple of days. He wasn't around a lot of other dogs or people other than family much so in a way he was never put to the acid test but I never had any aggression issues with him. I despise BSL that targets pitbull type dogs, its a big bunch of bullshit. Blame the owners not the dog. When it comes to training I was spoiled by my first dog, a cocker spaniel, we also named Ace. I don't recall him ever being formally trained but he was a quick learner and would always, and I mean always come when you called him and he was put to the acid test many times, was around lots of people and dogs when I was growing up and we never had an issue with him. To me the recall command, that a dog will come when called is the most important aspect of obedience and having a well mannered dog. If a dog won't come when you call, no matter what else they may do on command, it's not a well trained dog. Ace the cocker spaniel would always come, when there were other dogs around, strange dogs and strange people even when a female was in heat and other dogs followed her around vying for attention, I could always get Ace to come and stay with me when I called.

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    Today, unlike it was in the past, when you look into dog training on the web and elsewhere there is primarily it seems the push for positive reinforcement training such as clicker training. It's seems to me somewhat faddish and you will have some that insist that it's the only humane way to train. I disagree completely. I think you should use a variety of methods including positive reinforcement but positive reinforcement is not always necessarily the best and/or most humane way to train. I'm not against clicker training and use it some myself but I think one should be open to other methods and what works and what continues to work over time and under various circumstances not simply to obey when its convenient for the dog to do so. I would never purposely injure my dog when training or any other time for that matter, nor inflict pain or duress. I won't consider my bulldog Ace well trained until he will come when called at all times. I don't care if he will jump through hoops or roll over or do tricks. But to come and to sit on command and to walk on leash in good manner is the most important and all else will be icing on the cake for me.
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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModernFemme View Post
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    Default Re: Training a bully vs training another breed, such as a lab or Poodle?

    Bullies are different from a lot of other breeds, for sure. Labs, goldens and shepherds, for instance, have been bred for centuries to work closely with people and be responsive to them. Bullies have been bred for independence and tenacity, so once you figure out how to properly motivate your bully, training becomes easy! They will not respond the same way as a sporting breed dog, who may work for love alone! Bullies want a great paycheck!

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