Recommended Reading - Training and Behavior Help

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With my guy it's pretty straightforward in that he is afraid of all unfamiliar dogs & people. Since I know his triggers, I can gauge how close we can get before we reach his threshold. When he is in comfortable mode, I'll give him high-value treats for looking at things that he considers scary, but not growling at them. So the next time he sees that thing, he'll associate it with yummy treats.
But if he is already reacting to something, I know there's no reasoning with him & he's already over threshold. So that's when I either distract/redirect him by dropping a jackpot of goodies in the opposite direction, or I'll haul butt out if there, making it a game... "let's run buddy!!"

I'm sure my neighbors think I'm weird, but oh well -- I'm more worried about how my dog is feeling 😁


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MissWaddles13

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With my guy it's pretty straightforward in that he is afraid of all unfamiliar dogs & people. Since I know his triggers, I can gauge how close we can get before we reach his threshold. When he is in comfortable mode, I'll give him high-value treats for looking at things that he considers scary, but not growling at them. So the next time he sees that thing, he'll associate it with yummy treats.
But if he is already reacting to something, I know there's no reasoning with him & he's already over threshold. So that's when I either distract/redirect him by dropping a jackpot of goodies in the opposite direction, or I'll haul butt out if there, making it a game... "let's run buddy!!"

I'm sure my neighbors think I'm weird, but oh well -- I'm more worried about how my dog is feeling 😁


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I basically, do the same thing with Pork Chop. Thank you for sharing.

I hear you what'a comfortable for them works for me. We don't have to worry about others :)



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You must read "the hand book of applied dog behaviour:" volumes 1 to 3. Steven linsey. It is an academic text and it hasn't got one funny anecdote but it is full of all the information that the authors above quote. I trained with ceaser Milan and we spoke for hours about these books. They are expensive but worth every penny. When I meet other behaviourist I ask what they think of these books if they can't answer they are not a behaviourist. It's The Bible..
 

MissWaddles13

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You must read "the hand book of applied dog behaviour:" volumes 1 to 3. Steven linsey. It is an academic text and it hasn't got one funny anecdote but it is full of all the information that the authors above quote. I trained with ceaser Milan and we spoke for hours about these books. They are expensive but worth every penny. When I meet other behaviourist I ask what they think of these books if they can't answer they are not a behaviourist. It's The Bible..


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Evilo

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I have all the Cesar books except the last one!!!

My question is has the advice worked?
I am reluctant to spend a lot of money on books unless they are recommended highly.
I'm a big fan of Cesar Millan and his way of training dogs but I'm convinced he just has something special that dogs are attracted to not all of us are lucky enough to have it. I do try my best.
I only have 2 issues I can't manage with George, 1 is his aggression when he is tired (which yesterday was extremely bad I was afraid of him for a minute). The other is getting him to come to me when he is called as I would love to let him off leash on the quieter parts of our walks as I live in the country he could have so much fun if he would listen to me.
 

Evilo

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You must read "the hand book of applied dog behaviour:" volumes 1 to 3. Steven linsey. It is an academic text and it hasn't got one funny anecdote but it is full of all the information that the authors above quote. I trained with ceaser Milan and we spoke for hours about these books. They are expensive but worth every penny. When I meet other behaviourist I ask what they think of these books if they can't answer they are not a behaviourist. It's The Bible..
So jealous would love 5 minutes with Cesar Millan you were lucky to spend lots of time with him. That sounds like a long read all the same ��
 
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My question is has the advice worked?
I am reluctant to spend a lot of money on books unless they are recommended highly.
I'm a big fan of Cesar Millan and his way of training dogs but I'm convinced he just has something special that dogs are attracted to not all of us are lucky enough to have it. I do try my best.
I only have 2 issues I can't manage with George, 1 is his aggression when he is tired (which yesterday was extremely bad I was afraid of him for a minute). The other is getting him to come to me when he is called as I would love to let him off leash on the quieter parts of our walks as I live in the country he could have so much fun if he would listen to me.

He is sensing your apprehension and fear so he will 'react'. ... Mist dogs when tired will become grumpy and snap if pushed... You have to be confident and firm with him at all times--- develop alpha/leader with him.

Also, did you find that high value treat? If yes, use it for 'come' only so he knows it. Remember Bulldogs are contemplating whether the reward is worth the ask=='stubborn'


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He is sensing your apprehension and fear so he will 'react'. ... Mist dogs when tired will become grumpy and snap if pushed... You have to be confident and firm with him at all times--- develop alpha/leader with him.

Also, did you find that high value treat? If yes, use it for 'come' only so he knows it. Remember Bulldogs are contemplating whether the reward is worth the ask=='stubborn'


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Yes the treat is dried green tripe and we tried a bit of recall today it went ok until some kids walked into the field had to end it then.
Yesterday there was no apprehension from me I was sitting on the couch he was just as his crate sniffing around I could see him in a split second he ran in sprung up onto my lap ran along the couch and sat down. He isn't allowed on the couch so I stood up and said off no joy I went to take his collar and he jumped off and began his onslaught of jumping up trying to bite my thighs and my forearms. It was scary after about 30 seconds I managed to get control of him. I put him into the kitchen and closed the door before I was back at the couch he was snoring in his crate!!!! He gave no warning it was just an attack. I didn't have time to be apprehensive.
 
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Yes the treat is dried green tripe and we tried a bit of recall today it went ok until some kids walked into the field had to end it then.
Yesterday there was no apprehension from me I was sitting on the couch he was just as his crate sniffing around I could see him in a split second he ran in sprung up onto my lap ran along the couch and sat down. He isn't allowed on the couch so I stood up and said off no joy I went to take his collar and he jumped off and began his onslaught of jumping up trying to bite my thighs and my forearms. It was scary after about 30 seconds I managed to get control of him. I put him into the kitchen and closed the door before I was back at the couch he was snoring in his crate!!!! He gave no warning it was just an attack. I didn't have time to be apprehensive.

Sounds like he wanted to play but you did the right thing in telling him off.... You should also try to practice sit/down command for when jumps --- that sound like he was in a bulldog 'zoomie' attack


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Sounds like he wanted to play but you did the right thing in telling him off.... You should also try to practice sit/down command for when jumps --- that sound like he was in a bulldog 'zoomie' attack


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I do try the sit but he is so focuses on his attack it falls on deaf ears. Under normal circumstances he will sit and stay quite well. No one has yet been able to have him lie down 2 trainers tried he's having none of it.
It's hard to explain but when we try to play with him he takes however many toys we try with and hides them in his crate or bed he only likes to chew things to death alone.
I guess it may be something that will sort itself out a little as he matures and becomes more settled and maybe when his tail is better also.
Sorry I totally took you off topic of your original post.
 
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I do try the sit but he is so focuses on his attack it falls on deaf ears. Under normal circumstances he will sit and stay quite well. No one has yet been able to have him lie down 2 trainers tried he's having none of it.
It's hard to explain but when we try to play with him he takes however many toys we try with and hides them in his crate or bed he only likes to chew things to death alone.
I guess it may be something that will sort itself out a little as he matures and becomes more settled and maybe when his tail is better also.
Sorry I totally took you off topic of your original post.

Not off topic... Stay consistent and PATIENCE will help too. It does settle but letting him control the situation is not what you want cause as he gets older it will be harder to correct


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Here are some books by two of the highly recognized training and behavioral specialist. You can also get these as audio books to listen via your mobile device

Author: Patricia McConnell

  • The Other End of the Leash
  • How to be the Leader of the Pack... And have Your Dog Love You For It
  • For the Love of a Dog: Understanding Emotion in You and Your Best Friend
  • Family Friendly Dog Training: Six Week Program for You and Your Dog

Author: Cesar Millan

  • A Member of the Family
  • Be the Pack Leader
  • How to Raise the Perfect Dog
  • Cesar's Way
  • Cesar's Rules - Your Way to Train a Well-Behaved Dog

Author: Steve Applebaum
  • ABC Practical Guide to Dog Training

Author: Jane Killion
  • When Pigs Fly: Training Success with Impossible Dogs

Author: Karen Pryor
  • Don't Shoot the Dog: The New Art of Teaching and Training



I am interested in be the pack leader are these on podcast?


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