For me, If a fight occurs, I always scold them DURING, because if you do it after the fact, dogs do not have the ability to process "why" because nothing they do is premeditated. This only happened a couple of times with my bullies, when we first brought the boy into our household and he got big enough to defend himself. People who have bulldogs know that when they fight, it's not exactly biting but they go at each other with their mouths/upper body and loads of noise is involved. It's very important to remain calm but FIRM. So when they got into a fight I would say a firm "NO" immediately and separate them.. I made mine lay next to each other for as long as it took. By this I mean until their breathing went from frantic to *sigh*. The message I always try to get across to them with my energy (haha) is "don't forget whose house you live in"!! After the situation was over, and this sounds impossible, but, I would let it go and get on with things. Of course, I was more aware and alert to the warning signs, but I did not treat them differently. I truly believe that if you carry around an anxious or fearful energy, they can tell right away and it causes other unwanted behavior, like they'll want to protect you, control the situation because they feel like you aren't in control, etc etc.
that also helps even out the pack order yes. but tat fact that she will eat quickly to then go and take other s, gives the other dogs time to eat, and then you can focus on what she is doing, with a bit of tuff love with a slight back of hand, to the shoulder if she even starts to show aggression will get her head around the fact that you are boss not her, it gets her attention , and if you add the word STOP ! the soon learn stop means stop what ever. the hand just refocuses the brain. and then motion to go back to eating nice!
very good points. and staying calm, slow breaths are a must .if a dog is allowed to protect ANYTHING it will come back to haunt the dog, with a death sentence!! take a dog who protects a person -one day the dog will decide to protect something or someone else. this is a dog with a HUGE JOB !!!! and they start deciding for them selves what to do at any time!!. and the kids/people will ALWAYS COME FIRST hence the DEATH SENTENCE !!!!!!
please do not do this to our dogs. we don't let our kids do this either .otherwise the become delinquents!!
we must be a leader , for their sakes. because if you can't they will.
Hey here is some info on stress signals/body language
If it's useful to you, you may want to save the PDF, not sure how long the link will last!
Thank you all for your help and yes I did save those to my computer also! I am mainly working on keeping her away from the things that are triggering her with a sit/stay. Like the baby's highchair. A fav feeding frenzy spot for the pups but lately she has tried taking it over. So tell me which is best. She has her spot on a little carpet in front of the garage door, she knows it well and will sit/stay there for the most part with my watching and keeping on her. I was keeping the boys out as well but they are doing nothing wrong so then part of me thinks I should let them in so she can see they are above her in the pack order. Which would be right here? The small details are where my mind has trouble, I dont want to mess things up more. lol. Yestrday was good, she went after Cutty for a second but I was right there and was able to stop and pin her down instantly. Again this was over the high chair after she was allowed in. Other than that I kept her off the couches unless I offered her up to snuggle. Most of the playful pics in that pdf you attached are her and Cutty playing which is good, they play well together. Rough but happily. That I let them do so long as it isnt too rough. It is just when she is triggered is when she snaps real quick. I do stay calm I think, she does not scare me as she has bitten me without trying to actually trying to hurt me so I am not afraid of her. I also DO try and take the long deep breaths to let them all know all is calm, had seen that on dog whisperer years ago I think. I am not over fearful just yet since this is just the start. I am hopeful I can keep on it and fix this myself but for sure if I feel I cannot the next step will be to call in help. I refuse to let this get out of control especially having 1 and 3 year old skin babies. Thank you guys for your help, really means a LOT!!!!!!
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OK let them in so she can see they are above her in the pack order. Which would be right here? >>
yes , let the boys be normal. she is the banished one, and yes you should always be able to wave your
arm out and around an arc,/sweep with your arm, and not allow them to get any closer to you than that, when and if the need arises!! say around the baby high chair. try standing at the high chair, and keep them at bay an arms length away!! this way they are all learning an off bounds area. it also will raise your child's status in the pack. One idea that I like is to do invite, and go away movements with the arm. this is a silent but visual command that they can see clearly to establish an are of off limits. or back away!!!if I have explained that OK, but asking for them to come for attention and also go away, set boundaries, and it doe not hurt to take down the alpha dog in the pack from time to time, just to show them that YOU are the pack leader. stay on top of the fighting though, if they are close to a year. even it can and will get worse if you don't be real firm, at banishing (for 5 min) and silently allowing back in without acknowledging her!
some tips for judging her fight behavior or bite scale!! if a dog growl acts tuff, I call it CUSSING OUT THE OTHER DOG!! sounds like fighting but doesn't draw blood, ((the feet will not come off of the floor much. but if the dog raises up with front feet off of the floor, it is more serious. a bite to the ear/cheek/ is not bad!!!
but a bite to the shoulder/top of head./flank that is called a kill bite !!! and remember, English tent to be about 4 to 6 before they can--get aggressive --mostly---- so obedience is a must. sounds like you are thinking right on being calm, if you think it -they will feel it!!!!
@Lindathedogsmaid When my dogs play they raise their front feet off the floor a lot. But they aren't drawing blood or even really fighting...
Thanks! This is going to be a process for sure but I AM keeping on top of it. She was on top of the pug when she bit him and wouldnt let go so that is good to know that she was meaning it. So crazy how such a lover can be so crazy too. Also when I do submit her, all the pups and kids wanna come around and kinda see whats going on so I figure letting the pups sniff her while she is submitted is also showing they are above her? Seems like it would anyhow so I let them all see her up close and personal. Hope that is a good thing anyhow.
One thing I use on her and I know I'm going to get back lash on this...so if others can just NOT put their 2 cents in on what I'm saying is.......
I use the petsafe static collar on Orion. It has a loud correction beep button and a static shock button controlled only by remote. The levels go from 1 to 10 and there is a small dog and a large dog collar. We have the small dog collar for Orion. I've tested the shock on myself (up to a 5) and it really is like a static shock. When we have the collar on Orion, we have it on a 3. All I have to do is show her the remote and she usually changes her attitude. Actually....I don't even have to have the collar on her...just show her the remote.
The thing with this training device is you really have to pick your battles. Tackle one issue only. With Orion it's her trying to rule the roost. She is a bossy babe.
This collar does not work with all dogs. We were trying to attack Vegas' issue with the fence. He literally has torn boards off our wood fence to get to the dog on the other side. He does not respond at all to the static shock. It doesn't faze him..he could care less.