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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwikiki View Post
    Hi I have a 6 yr old English bulldog Ginger who has really bad allergies. I just start raw 4 days ago I'm using Stella and chewy right know until I get comfortable doing this. I also have a puppy on it part raw kibble. I'm scared to see how the detox will be I heard they get worst before better. Is that true? Also do you mix kibble with yours I heard that's not good either. I'm a little confused there's so much info out there. I just wanted a little guides if you have any. Thank you
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    I've heard it's not good to mix kibble and raw together mainly because they digest differently. As GatorRay mentioned, it's best to start cold turkey, just remember to feed enough bone at first so your pup won't get cannon butt. Also, how old is your pup? Those at a very young age is recommended to be fed 4 times a day, the total daily amount being 2% of his or her adult weight. The yahoo rawfeeding group is fantastic that even the seasoned vets respond regularly and provide input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherry View Post
    I am dying to get my husband on board with this. !!! I must start this ASAP
    If it weren't for this site, I may have never had the nerve
    Hubby just approved, we are all on board. I have bought my last bag of FROMM
    Going shopping for a freezer tomorrow at LOWES
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    Fantastic to hear. Remember to research research research! And to ask questions if you have any, and there's no such thing as a dumb one, trust me!

    We got our freezer from Lowes too. We price matched and got the 10% difference, resulting in getting at least $100 off.

    If you have questions let us know. I know I had so many both before and after Stig started on it.

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    @karenben...any progress on those allergy issues? Is she still itching and getting a rash?
    well i have to admit im baffled at the moment,for 2 days very little itching ,then pow off the scale,no sneezing no tear staining,just lots of fur loss,i keep her off grass no difference,i keep her off the carpets no difference,i know its not food related as she gets nothing but raw,its all very strange ,yesterday she did not have to wear the tshirt all day ,it was great to see her body lol,this morning very itchy!!!,ive started her on supplements to strengthen the immune system,they are,dandelion,zinc,primrose oil,flaxseed,echenacea,extra virgin cocanut oil,she already takes acidophilus ,these all strengthen the immune system but obviously will take a while if they are going to help her,after observing annies behaviour ,ive been feeling like dianne fossey with the apes lol,im of the opinion that she is obsessed with scratching!,she is a very obsessive natured dog and when she obsesses she gets stressed,now i purchased a pheremone plug incalled adaptil ,its been plugged in 3 days and i have to say she is so much calmer,sleeps more ,and not as obsessed with shadows,people,balls,i dont know if annie will ever be free of the scratching but all i do now is maintain her to prevent secondary infection,the only other option is hormones she is due her second season soon so if its not resolved bt then i will have her spayed or at least hormone tested,karen

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    Hi all -

    I am 100% new to all of this. Single male who doesn't even like to cook for himself. Its usually subway sandwiches and protein shakes for me all day. I have been known to cook up some chicken breast though and veggies. Based on what all of you have described, im considering hiring a personal Chef for Baxter and moving into a cardboard box instead of my condo!!

    Do any of you have any quick, starter techniques so this little puppy (only 8 weeks) will be on "Raw" from the very beginning of his life? Something simple for me? Like give me one or two very easy suggestions on how to get him going on raw that doesnt include massive preparation? I would really appreciate it.

    Lastly two side questions (1) What does give him lots of bone mean? They eat the actual bone? (2) One guy said no chicken because chicken equals bad gas .. but the rest of you all said chicken ... which is best?

    Thanks

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    if your going to feed an 8 week old pup then just start with chicken wings ,depending on his size 1 or 2 should be enough for 1 meal plus his bone content,you can also give him chicken breast for his other 2 meals ,i take it hes on 3 per day?,some dogs handle bone very well some get constipated,if he gets constipated then miss out a couple of boney meals,all dogs take differently to raw feeding,he may get the squits dont panick just up the bone content,only stick with chicken for a few weeks until he is eating well,then you can start with other protiens and bones,supervise his bone eating if he is a bigger pup then you can give him chicken carcass uncooked,nevr give him cooked bones or knuckle bones,shin bones they are too hard and may damage his teeth,remember he may not gain weight as quick as a kibble fed dog,kibble has hidden fillers for bulking up,your feeding all natural foods but he will be very healthy,his water consumption will go down dont worry its normal and he will poop less that too is normal,just take your time and research raw feeding,it can be as cheap or expensive as you make it,good luck ,karen

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    @bulldogburger Karen gave some great advice. If you know an approximate weight that he will grow to be using his parents' weight, then feed approximately 2 to 3% of that to your pup. You should feed FOUR times a day (no matter what you feed, even kibble) at this age. Around 4 months you can drop to 3 times, at 6 months drop to two, and 1 year you can take him down to one meal a day. If you start feeding and notice the dog looks like it might be losing a bit of weight, DONT PANIC, just up the food a bit. It will take time to figure out how to feed. My Gypsy (7 months now!) lost a bit so I moved her portion up to 3% of her projected adult weight instead of 2%.

    Bone means bone. Chicken bones are the best as they are soft and already in his food. Also, chicken seems to be the easiest for them to get used to while they are adjusting unless he has already been on raw from the breeder, then ask the breeder for some advice and what his current diet is. BE SURE TO MAKE SURE THE CHICKEN IS NOT ENHANCED! Meaning, that it has not been injected with broth, etc. An easy way to tell is look at the sodium content on the package. If it more than 100mg it is probably enhanced and might give him some tummy troubles. As Annie said, you can do wings, breasts, and legs for a pup of that size. If you notice his poops are runny, then add a little more bone, if they are too hard or he gets constipated, then take some bone out and feed more meat. You should keep the pieces larger at first so that he will need to gnaw and chew it. It will help satisfy that puppy chewing urge too . Never give any cooked bones. They can splinter and they are choking hazards. Raw bones are softer and safe. Also, never feed bones from the large animals such as beef, elk, moose, deer, etc. After a few weeks you can add in organs, starting with liver...just a sliver...at any rate, I will PM you a great group where you can research to your heart's content and ask questions. You can ask questions here as well as everyone here that raw feeds is fantastic! The other up side is once you know what to buy and can introduce more things, you can hit all of the good sales and "manager's specials" at the store and it may end up being cheaper than kibble in the long run.

    Good luck!

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    ok, as I told @GatorRay on blog, my new freezer was delivered today. All ready to start with the raw diet. My husband.........He flip flopped on me. Will start to work on him again. LOL I really want to do this !!! whaaaa whaaaa. tehe
    I have been reading everything I could find on this subject. It really sounds fabulous for this breed. And with all the good peeps on here, I feel fearless.
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    This has turned in to an AWESOME post !!!


    I went to the feed store and got a bigger bag of the TOTW wetlands and a small bag of salmon and she LOVES the salmon.
    I got a few cans of wet as I only give her 3tbs in the AM...

    I asked the lady how she felt about the meddallions as treats... she thinks it would be okay ( I can't remember the name of the brand)


    Im hoping after we move into the new house I might be brave enought to try some real RAW food...
    I them so much!!!! My life has changed so much since 7/2011
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    I am doing GREAT with raw right now. I will post more of the blog in a bit.

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    I feel bad about feeding dry kibble. I mean, it has to be horrible for any dog. WHO ever invented it in the first place? I would like to re-try canned food, but Maximus gets diarrhea from it all .....I've asked 3 of my VETS about RAW FOOD and none of them recommended it. So now I'm in a quandry.....I'd like to give Max just something other than Dry Dog Food all the time. I do COOK chicken for him which he loves, but I never thought of giving him RAW uncooked meat.....I don't know.....I'm squeamish about it. I'm afraid of it making him sick ......

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    @Maximus don't feel bad. We all feed what we are comfortable with. I feel raw is best for is but I am comfortable doing it. If you are not comfortable, then you aren't. I wont go into the vet issue. That is another topic altogether and there are more appropriate forums for that. If you are interested, do some research and decide. Take care!

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    its your dog not the vets feed what you want to feed,its very rare for any dog to get sick on raw,yes you may get a few runny poops,you may over/under feed at first but raw feeding is a learning curve,but all this passes as you grow more confidant with raw,remember dogs choke on kibble,bacteria is found in kibble so there is no difference with raw,tell your vet that when he starts paying the vet bills then he can tell you what to feed lol,i know that i actually feel more comfortable raw feeding than i did kibble feeding ,but you will never know till you try,karen

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