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    Default Going RAW, gradual change from kibble or go full raw from day 1?

    Well so much for Lola doing good on the Stella & Chewy's Raw Coated Lamb kibble. I came back from vacation and she is worse than she has been in a long time even after a Cytopoint shot. She goes back in on Friday for another shot (4 weeks after the first one). After 4 years of this (she didn't seem to have any issues until after she turned one year old) I'm at my wits end.

    Here is a list of all of the foods I have tried over the last 5 years. All but one has been a kibble.

    Blue buffalo chicken
    Taste of the Wild - High Prairie Puppy
    Fromm - Beef Fritatta
    Taste of the Wild - High Prairie Canine
    Pioneer Naturals Grain & Potato Free Whitefish
    Dr. E's Grain & Potato Free Duck RX Dog Food
    Natural Planet Rabbit & Salmon Entree Grain Free
    V-Dog
    Hill's Prescription Diet z/d

    Zignature Kangaroo
    Taste of the wild Pacific Stream Salmon
    Acana Duck & Pear singles formula.
    Carna4 Grain Free Duck & Carna4 Flora4 natural probiotic
    Fromm Pork & Peas
    Primal Raw Frozen Patties - Beef
    Stella & Chewy’s Raw Coated Kibble - Lamb


    She seemed really constipated on the Primal Raw Frozen Beef, but maybe that is just how they poop on raw food (like large rabbit turds)? Her skin issues did seem to be improving but I switched her back to a kibble because of the constipation and the fact that I was going on vacation. She also had a anal gland impact and rupture a little less than a year ago so I'm concerned about her stool being too small and not expressing the glands properly. But I do want to give Raw food a try again. If anyone has any suggestions for a raw brand and protein to try I'm all ears. I think the only common protein she hasn't tried yet is Turkey, but I find it hard to believe that she is allergic to ALL of the proteins that she has tried. Which would mean it has to be something else causing the issue.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions on what raw food to try.


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    @pcchenard that’s a lot of brands. Question is how long would she stay on each change?

    Regarding raw n pooping, yes when dogs eat raw it’s like hard little nuggets. You need to add fiber like frozen green beans or berries etc....how long did you stay with raw?

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    Most food changes were no less than 60 days with no symptom improvements, but a couple were abandoned due to extreme constipation after 30 days.

    She was on Raw for about a month and I stopped the Raw food simply because I was going on vacation and was concerned about the hard poop and the fact that someone else would have to deal with the raw food, which I was still learning about myself. But I want to give Raw another try for a longer time period. I'm just not sure what brand and protein to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcchenard View Post
    Most food changes were no less than 60 days with no symptom improvements, but a couple were abandoned due to extreme constipation after 30 days.

    She was on Raw for about a month and I stopped the Raw food simply because I was going on vacation and was concerned about the hard poop and the fact that someone else would have to deal with the raw food, which I was still learning about myself. But I want to give Raw another try for a longer time period. I'm just not sure what brand and protein to try.
    I don’t know what you guys have in the US but I’m sure @2BullyMama n @Cbrugs can help you on the brands. I found a place where I go buy it frozen in 1/2 pounders. So both my dogs are 50lbs and the get a pound a day plus their treats. I’m pretty sure if you stick to raw you will eliminate a lot of issues with Lola. But don’t forget to also give fiber as veggies n fruits.

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    Default Re: Going RAW, gradual change from kibble or go full raw from day 1?

    I buy a from local provider made to order.

    Some good national brands are
    Vital Essential
    Stella and Chewys
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BullyMama View Post
    I buy a from local provider made to order.

    Some good national brands are
    Vital Essential
    Stella and Chewys
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    Thanks! I'm going to give Stella and Chewy's "Stella's Super Beef" frozen patties a try. I'll report back after she has been on it a while.

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    I rotate between Vital Essentials, Tucker's, Answers, NW Naturals, and Primal. I also get ground up rabbit locally through a raw food co-op.

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    since we're talking raw i was thinking of doing something different AGAIN.. What if i got my own meat source,(like some grass feed something) and added it raw (i used to do this but cook the meat and add) to one of the new Honest kitchen base mixes. They have a coupl of new ones i see. Has anyone used raw this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hankster View Post
    since we're talking raw i was thinking of doing something different AGAIN.. What if i got my own meat source,(like some grass feed something) and added it raw (i used to do this but cook the meat and add) to one of the new Honest kitchen base mixes. They have a coupl of new ones i see. Has anyone used raw this way?
    Cheaper if you buy your own veggies than HK base.

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    Cheaper if you buy your own veggies than HK base.
    yea, i was also thinking................ I am doing a bit of juicing of carrots, beets apple and ginger type drink (thats for me ) and have lots of that fiber stuff left. I know for the dog to absorb it needs either slight cook or very ground type thing..... wondering how i could incorporate this into special meals for the Hankster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hankster View Post
    yea, i was also thinking................ I am doing a bit of juicing of carrots, beets apple and ginger type drink (thats for me ) and have lots of that fiber stuff left. I know for the dog to absorb it needs either slight cook or very ground type thing..... wondering how i could incorporate this into special meals for the Hankster.
    Hankster is use to eating veggies so I would simply add some of your juice in it n freeze in ice cube trays. No need to cook it as it’s like eating the veggie raw. Use them as treats or add to broth n again in ice cube trays.

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    yes! perfect to freeze!! I get kinda lots at a time and doesnt last forever so that would be the answer. tks,,,,, sometimes ya just gotta ask

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