Does feeding a BARF produce a more muscular dog compared to kibble?

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Hi all, im considering putting my 9 week old pup on the BARF diet, would this result in a more muscular / lean dog as opposed to the food he is currently eating?

I can feed him a BARF diet for roughly the same price. The cost for 20 kg of minced chicken with 15% bone is £25 delivered to my home. Here is the nutritional info on what he is eating now -

CSJ Specialist Natural Puppy Food (15kg sack) £22
Made from a minimum 36% real chicken, CSJ Puppy contains only natural, high quality ingredients.

This feed is specially formulated to meet your puppy's nutritional needs. It is tasty and easy to feed - it can be soaked with warm water for introduction as a weaning food from about 3 weeks of age or fed dry to older pups.

CSJ Puppy is also a suitable feed for whelping bitches.


Composition

Chicken Meal, Wheat, Maize, Chicken Fat, Prairie Meal, Rice, Salmon Oil, Unmolassed Beet Pulp, Full Fat Linseed, Salt, Yeast, Potassium Chloride

Analytical Constituents

Protein 28%
Oil 14%
Fibre 2%
Ash 6%

Additives

Natural antioxidants

Nutritional Additives

Vitamin A/E672 16,800iu/kg
Vitamin D/E671 1,570iu/kg
Vitamin E/3a700 235mg/kg
Iron Sulphate Monohydrate 75mg/kg
Cupric Sulphate Pentahydrate 30mg/kg
Manganous Oxide 70mg/kg
Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate 365mg/kg
Sodium Selenite 0.5mg/kg

 

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I don't think it necessarily does. My dog is very muscular and lean and he is on a kibble diet. I think genetics play a role too. Here is a pic of him at 9 months and 11 months.

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I think it is all in the genes - you cant make dog muscular (bullies are not really as muscular as other breeds tho) if his/hers parents weren't .
Obviously diet and exercise is also important
My sporting pits were feed high quality kibble and i didn't see much difference vs other way of feeding with my babies competitors
I never attempt barf feeding so i cannot give an advice regarding feeding
 
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This is reassuring to know, like everyone i just want whats best for my boy.
 
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Pati Robins

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As you can see they aren't overly muscular ;-)
Ps we are not allowed to post kennel /breeder names/links here x
 
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HMMM it does get a little confusing as to what you can post on here. i will remove now. Thanks for sharing the info :)
 

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I think its a bit like advertising ,they are few great breeders on here too and they don't advertise neither ;-) you will get used to it x
 

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I wouldn't say it makes them muscular but Tank definitely got more lean when we started feeding him a raw diet. He was on kibble when we got him. I'll see if I can find some photos of then and now so you can see how his body changed.
 

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When we first got him:
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On the raw diet:
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This photo is out of focus but he is sitting in a similar position to the first photo but on the raw diet in this photo:
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Every dog is totally different but like I said, I noticed he got much more lean on raw
 
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An unequivocal yes on the "leaner" result with whole foods.
I don't call it just "raw" because you can feed whole food mixes to dogs that isn't raw.
Baxter did terribly on raw. He wasted away, and was not at all healthy. Lots of digestion issues, and elevated liver enzymes.
I just felt more comfortable with a cooked version of the whole foods. So I got some of that instead and he's doing amazing now.
I went to a bulldog meetup and it was scary how insanely obese all the dogs were. And they were all on kibble.
Its general knowledge that kibble is full of fillers and heavy on carbs, so this would explain why.
Conversely, I feel baxter is a little too thin, becuase when you go on whole foods, its mostly protein, and almost zero carbs.
So I am still working out how im going to handle this. I may very well mix the whole foods with some safe and healthy kibble (if such a thing exists - a lot of people tell me thats a misnomer).
 

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It also depends how much kibble you are actually feeding too -different brands require different amounts -there isnt "one for all" guidance -also its a bit of a hit and miss when feeding as it is combined with how much of daily exercise you bully have -then you adjust feeding accordingly
I cant say all bullies that are feed kibble are obese -it all comes down to how much you are feeding them
I also tend to check all the time my girls general look (mainly from the top and by feeling their spine and ribcage)
This is a guide that im using ,bare in mind bullies are build a bit different
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Food alone don't make you muscular, but it can make you fat, the same with bullys. Food can make you sick and it can make you healthier, the same with bullys.
The compostiton of the food that you're feeding could be much better, but it is better than feeding your puppy chicken alone.
 

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Lean is about how much quality food the dog is ingesting. A lot of dog food comes in the mouth and right out the butt. What is retained in the dog can make him fat or lean. Because raw meat is easily processed by the dog, it comes in the mouth and most of it stays in the dog instead of out the butt. Meat is also highly usable by the dog, so it gets used up and converted into energy instead of getting stored as fat. Whereas, in kibble, it comes in the mouth and a lot of it goes out the butt (you can compare stool sizes between kibble and raw meat fed dogs) and what is retained would have lots of carbs due to the breading that is necessary to form the kibble even if it is one of those high quality kibbles that are low carb. So, the dog uses up the protein for energy and then the carbs and stores the extra carb as fat. But, kibble or raw, the protein will not get converted into muscle unless the dog needs more muscle to do work...

So, to build muscle, the dog needs to do something that requires a lot of muscle... like exercising.

So, raw fed or kibble fed can build lean muscular dogs. It just depends first on genetic make-up, then the amount of usable food and exercise the dog is getting.

Hope this helps.
 

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