too old for these cars. My oldest son's dream car is the EVO and my youngest son had a Civic Si, then got a WRX, however he quickly went back to the Civic Si. I am not a car person and don't care about speed etc.... So not sure what his reason was to go back. He is my "mechanic" son and on a car team.....Don't know if this makes sense to you or helps you out at all.