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    Default Re: bulldog bad breeder...question about bad hips

    Bad hips are a problem sometimes with bully's. It's really just luck weather or not you get one with or with out any health issues. You can try and seek out a good bloodline, that's why we only breed AKC bully's.

    If I we're you, and wanted to keep your pup, I'd ask that your friend pay for the the medical cost's. Either that or simply ask for another dog.

    Any breeder worth their salt would try to make things right with they're buyer. Obviously no one can guarantee 100% anything, but something this bad should be addressed.

    Most breeder's will ask that you let them use they're vet for a second opinion and go from there.

    Good luck to you and I hope my rambling helped you.

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    Default Re: bulldog bad breeder...question about bad hips

    Like @PukaMiniBulldogs said I would ask her what Vet she uses and bring your bully to that Vet for a second opinion so she can't say your Vet is wrong. Then I would request again the money back for the breeding rights.

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    Default Re: bulldog bad breeder...question about bad hips

    mm everyone is very helpful and i thank you all ,as i dont know enough about bullies... but now im alittle confused with what to do and what to think...
    i think you all can understand Im NOT giving her back regardless she is my wiggley buddy .she has never been away from me more than a hr untill now
    im not out to get somthing for free or try to rip the breeder off she charged 2000.00 for her as she is a rare color blue merle.
    i have 3 bird dogs 2 dobermans and one rottie...the rotties smush face is what got me thanking about her bullies...
    i show in akc and iabca(my pointers color is not allowed in akc) and most of my dogs are imported
    she was a mistake i admit that.. and she was a sper of the moment type thing...but i dont regret her she brings joy where ever she goes she has peeps all over our town she loves kids and old people and its great to see people smile.we feed her purina 1 large breed puppy she sleeps in bed with us as she refuses anything less

    our other dogs hips are all basicly the same they are large dogs so proper care and food is needed..but when it comes to the bully i understand they are known to have issues. but thats all i know...
    in my opinian if this were a pup i breed i would not breed her and would not excpect full rights payment. even at 4 months going on 5. it scares me to think she would take her back too breed or resale to someone else for full cost to breed. knowing she has ,or is going thru issues with hips
    im confused by her reaction about dissagreeing with the vet and saying just because other dogs in the line are tested they will be fine....that dosnt add up to me... in my mind hips are either good or not.... no inbetween or grey we will not breed her regardless as this is how we feel on it and are happy to get her fixed and just keep as a pet. we personaly would not risk that on any dog
    to me her reaction makes me think she is just about the money ...i had asked her prior about hip testing but i missunderstood( i thought her dogs were ofa done.but were not)
    so the question i guess comes down to... is she right to still want full rights payment and thier is no reason why she shouldnt be breed or am i right in thanking she should not be breed?
    wish i could down load the x ray
    the best i can explain is
    to me what i saw was ...the side with the knee looks dislocated and the other side looked fine to me (im not a expert)but i could see the one side getting better and could understand just giving her time..but the worst side ...it looked bad it was noticable bad even to me who is not a expert.
    the vet said the knee side was extreamly bad and the other side was just bad
    he did not say hip displatia he just said the hips were bad and the one side was way worse.

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    Default Re: help question about hips...

    I'm no expert by any means, but I did see a clip from an akc dog show where they were x-raying dogs hips. Hip dysplasia disqualified them from champion status. And they were saying it's congenital and dogs with it should not be bred.

    The idea supposedly behind Olde English breeding is supposed to be to breed out the bad congenital defects through the mixing of healthier genes from other varieties mixed with the EB.

    It doesn't seem like that's what your relating that your breeder is doing though. What mixtures is she using?

    At any rate, no I don't think you should breed her. And no you shouldn't have to pay for breeding rights.

    Besides, it's my understanding that OEB's aren't AKC, are they? So I really don't understand what she's charging you for?
    Last edited by LariP; 06-16-2011 at 07:41 PM.

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    Default Re: help question about hips...

    i dont know alot about the knee caps but i talk ALOT to the breeder i got two of my bullies from... they are both vet techs and have been raising english bulldogs a very long time... she told me one of her bullies was out playing with another one and just jumped over the other one and when she came back down she blew out both her knees and had to have surgery... i know it doesnt take that much of a jump to cause injuries... my oldest bulldog was only 4 months old when she jumped off our porch , which isnt very much of a jump, and broke her leg in the joint... the local vets here wanted to amputate her leg and i didnt want this to happen so i took her 3 hours away to a specialist who did surgery and she has been fine every since... she is now 3 and half years old... cost me around 2000.00 dollars but i would have paid twice if i had to... shes one of the family.. along with 2 other bullies... they are worth it...

    sometimes second opinions are worth asking...

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    Default Re: help question about hips...

    Ok, well, I don't know anything about her issues or the problems with the breeder but I had TWO vets tell me that Gator would need surgery for a leg injury so I took him for a third opinion with an ortho specialist who assured me that he did not need surgery. I would get at least one other opinion before doing anything. JMO.

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    Default Re: help question about hips...

    I know I am late with giving you advice... maybe you already got it all figured out but hips cannot be O.F.A certified until the dog is 2 years old and so to say your puppy has bad hips at this age is not accurate. I had a friend that raised a puppy that she looked like she had bad hops at 3 months of age but had them tested again at 2 years old and they were fine.
    Also about the knee, it could have happened because of a "loose" Knee, where it comes out of its socket. Time heals these most of these type of knees IF you keep the puppy off of slippery surfaces such as hard wood floors and linoleum.
    Don't be too hard on the breeder... she probably knows more about these things then all of us put together
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