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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by DougTrainer View Post
    Take a breath.

    The value of the dog is in your head--not in the dog
    breed. That's not to be antagonistic, so if you're
    taking it antagonistically, you're not understanding
    my intent. My intent is to make you stop, tilt your
    head sideways like dogs do, and say to yourself,
    "Hmm, I don't think I ever thought of that or saw
    it that way."
    We have a filter that puts an "I
    really, really, really want a bulldog"
    filter on
    everything and every dog we look at, and since
    we don't have the dog and some breeder does,
    boom, the breeder ups his fee and many of us
    pay it, thinking it's all in the breed.

    In the world, some bulldogs are sold for next-to-
    nothing, or in the case of shelter adoptions,
    bulldogs are occasionally taken with no money
    being exchanged--the value is in your head, not in
    the breed. The breeder wants you to believe
    otherwise. I'll let you chew on that for a while.

    IMHO, yes, it's a lot of money for any dog.

    We put lots of money into the acquisition, and it
    almost never seem to look at the human-dog
    relationship and its training. We go into the
    relationship assuming that the relationship will be
    robust and problem-free. That tells me that in the
    initial assumption the training has zero value, and
    it's simply all about acquiring the dog. I'm waving
    my arms and saying, "Hey! Look here! This does
    make sense, and I almost guarantee it's something
    you never stopped to look at nor consider."
    Old
    School
    doesn't care about being a strong leader.
    New School considers that.

    In fact, I tell my clients:

    • Get "trained" before you get "dogged," or
    • Get yourself some training before you go getting your dog.

    If you get your dog and then get training, you'll
    always be behind the eight ball as you try to build
    that leadership boat as you're building it. That's hard
    to do, and it's not fair to the dog. Be the best leader
    you can--get yourself trained first, before you get
    your dog. If that sounds odd, it's because the old,
    Old School human culture doesn't understand its
    value and doesn't care as much about how to be a
    strong leader. New School cares. I care. I want
    you to be your dog's

    • calm,
    • strong,
    • patient,
    • assertive, and
    • non-aggressive (CSPAN)

    leader for your dog right now--before you get him.
    When you go into the relationship being aware of
    and having The Magic Five above, you will

    • trigger your dog's calm submission, you'll
    • always have a calm, submissive dog,

    and you always want that, regardless of the breed.
    You can quote me on that.

    In totaling up the purchase price of a dog, include
    some money you squirrel aside to get yourself
    some training before you get your dog. Put money
    into acquiring your charge, then be sure to put a
    portion of that money into training for yourself (and
    ultimately for you dog, but really it's really about
    you).

    That training, and that money you put into your
    training, will be something that will be used for
    the rest of you and your dog's life. You'll never
    regret it.

    Warm regards,

    Doug Parker
    The DOuGTrainer
    Henderson, NV
    USA










    @megdav how did it go? Any update??

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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurie View Post


    @megdav how did it go? Any update??

    Got to admit it's a good sales pitch!

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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurie View Post









    @megdav how did it go? Any update??
    oops sorry, missed this! i just posted a new thread, thanks for asking

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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by helsonwheels View Post
    Got to admit it's a good sales pitch!

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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by helsonwheels View Post
    Got to admit it's a good sales pitch!
    Only someone who doesn't own a bulldog would say the asking price for the dog (or any dog) is too much. Only someone who knows NOTHING about the breed would dare say the value and worth are in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libra926 View Post
    Only someone who doesn't own a bulldog would say the asking price for the dog (or any dog) is too much. Only someone who knows NOTHING about the breed would dare say the value and worth are in your head.
    Can I give this a hundred likes and claps. I have had many people gush about my babies, and then ask what they cost, only to turn around and balk at the price. The joy my dogs bring me is worth a million times more than what I actually paid for them.


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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by DougTrainer View Post
    Take a breath.

    The value of the dog is in your head--not in the dog
    breed. That's not to be antagonistic, so if you're
    taking it antagonistically, you're not understanding
    my intent. My intent is to make you stop, tilt your
    head sideways like dogs do, and say to yourself,
    "Hmm, I don't think I ever thought of that or saw
    it that way."
    We have a filter that puts an "I
    really, really, really want a bulldog"
    filter on
    everything and every dog we look at, and since
    we don't have the dog and some breeder does,
    boom, the breeder ups his fee and many of us
    pay it, thinking it's all in the breed.

    In the world, some bulldogs are sold for next-to-
    nothing, or in the case of shelter adoptions,
    bulldogs are occasionally taken with no money
    being exchanged--the value is in your head, not in
    the breed. The breeder wants you to believe
    otherwise. I'll let you chew on that for a while.

    IMHO, yes, it's a lot of money for any dog.

    We put lots of money into the acquisition, and it
    almost never seem to look at the human-dog
    relationship and its training. We go into the
    relationship assuming that the relationship will be
    robust and problem-free. That tells me that in the
    initial assumption the training has zero value, and
    it's simply all about acquiring the dog. I'm waving
    my arms and saying, "Hey! Look here! This does
    make sense, and I almost guarantee it's something
    you never stopped to look at nor consider."
    Old
    School
    doesn't care about being a strong leader.
    New School considers that.

    In fact, I tell my clients:

    • Get "trained" before you get "dogged," or
    • Get yourself some training before you go getting your dog.

    If you get your dog and then get training, you'll
    always be behind the eight ball as you try to build
    that leadership boat as you're building it. That's hard
    to do, and it's not fair to the dog. Be the best leader
    you can--get yourself trained first, before you get
    your dog. If that sounds odd, it's because the old,
    Old School human culture doesn't understand its
    value and doesn't care as much about how to be a
    strong leader. New School cares. I care. I want
    you to be your dog's

    • calm,
    • strong,
    • patient,
    • assertive, and
    • non-aggressive (CSPAN)

    leader for your dog right now--before you get him.
    When you go into the relationship being aware of
    and having The Magic Five above, you will

    • trigger your dog's calm submission, you'll
    • always have a calm, submissive dog,

    and you always want that, regardless of the breed.
    You can quote me on that.

    In totaling up the purchase price of a dog, include
    some money you squirrel aside to get yourself
    some training before you get your dog. Put money
    into acquiring your charge, then be sure to put a
    portion of that money into training for yourself (and
    ultimately for you dog, but really it's really about
    you).

    That training, and that money you put into your
    training, will be something that will be used for
    the rest of you and your dog's life. You'll never
    regret it.

    Warm regards,

    Doug Parker
    The DOuGTrainer
    Henderson, NV
    USA
    What a load of
    Maybe if you had a EBD you would feel different

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    Default Re: is $1400 a lot...?

    Quote Originally Posted by DougTrainer View Post
    Take a breath.

    The value of the dog is in your head--not in the dog
    breed. That's not to be antagonistic, so if you're
    taking it antagonistically, you're not understanding
    my intent. My intent is to make you stop, tilt your
    head sideways like dogs do, and say to yourself,
    "Hmm, I don't think I ever thought of that or saw
    it that way."
    We have a filter that puts an "I
    really, really, really want a bulldog"
    filter on
    everything and every dog we look at, and since
    we don't have the dog and some breeder does,
    boom, the breeder ups his fee and many of us
    pay it, thinking it's all in the breed.

    In the world, some bulldogs are sold for next-to-
    nothing, or in the case of shelter adoptions,
    bulldogs are occasionally taken with no money
    being exchanged--the value is in your head, not in
    the breed. The breeder wants you to believe
    otherwise. I'll let you chew on that for a while.

    IMHO, yes, it's a lot of money for any dog.

    We put lots of money into the acquisition, and it
    almost never seem to look at the human-dog
    relationship and its training. We go into the
    relationship assuming that the relationship will be
    robust and problem-free. That tells me that in the
    initial assumption the training has zero value, and
    it's simply all about acquiring the dog. I'm waving
    my arms and saying, "Hey! Look here! This does
    make sense, and I almost guarantee it's something
    you never stopped to look at nor consider."
    Old
    School
    doesn't care about being a strong leader.
    New School considers that.

    In fact, I tell my clients:

    • Get "trained" before you get "dogged," or
    • Get yourself some training before you go getting your dog.

    If you get your dog and then get training, you'll
    always be behind the eight ball as you try to build
    that leadership boat as you're building it. That's hard
    to do, and it's not fair to the dog. Be the best leader
    you can--get yourself trained first, before you get
    your dog. If that sounds odd, it's because the old,
    Old School human culture doesn't understand its
    value and doesn't care as much about how to be a
    strong leader. New School cares. I care. I want
    you to be your dog's

    • calm,
    • strong,
    • patient,
    • assertive, and
    • non-aggressive (CSPAN)

    leader for your dog right now--before you get him.
    When you go into the relationship being aware of
    and having The Magic Five above, you will

    • trigger your dog's calm submission, you'll
    • always have a calm, submissive dog,

    and you always want that, regardless of the breed.
    You can quote me on that.

    In totaling up the purchase price of a dog, include
    some money you squirrel aside to get yourself
    some training before you get your dog. Put money
    into acquiring your charge, then be sure to put a
    portion of that money into training for yourself (and
    ultimately for you dog, but really it's really about
    you).

    That training, and that money you put into your
    training, will be something that will be used for
    the rest of you and your dog's life. You'll never
    regret it.

    Warm regards,

    Doug Parker
    The DOuGTrainer
    Henderson, NV
    USA
    Why dose this seem like a troll post?

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    This morning I was all excited to post to you guys that there was a new craigslist ad up for Dozer. Stacy, his owner, changed the price to $1400 with breeding rights and $1000 without breeding rights. I was psyched because we don't plan on breeding. But this morning it's gone lol...maybe she changed her mind? Or someone came to get him last night? We are supposed to meet Dozer today <3 I hope. If no one bought him suddenly last night. I can't say I'd be too surprised, I mean we are dragging our heals, but this is why: We rent a house right now but it's far from husband's work (about an hour in traffic). So we decided it was too far and have an apartment reserved that is much closer to his work. We LOVE our house. It's hard to leave. So my husband is having 2nd thoughts on leaving. He needs to know by Monday night because I have to drop the first rent check off on Tues. SO I'm waiting to see what his decision will be before I buy Dozer. I'm not sure the apt will be big enough for all of us + Doze. I know someone could come along and buy him in the meantime, but that is the chance I have to take.

    BTW we are meeting Dozer today for the first time! I'm excited

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    Quote Originally Posted by megdav View Post
    This morning I was all excited to post to you guys that there was a new craigslist ad up for Dozer. Stacy, his owner, changed the price to $1400 with breeding rights and $1000 without breeding rights. I was psyched because we don't plan on breeding. But this morning it's gone lol...maybe she changed her mind? Or someone came to get him last night? We are supposed to meet Dozer today <3 I hope. If no one bought him suddenly last night. I can't say I'd be too surprised, I mean we are dragging our heals, but this is why: We rent a house right now but it's far from husband's work (about an hour in traffic). So we decided it was too far and have an apartment reserved that is much closer to his work. We LOVE our house. It's hard to leave. So my husband is having 2nd thoughts on leaving. He needs to know by Monday night because I have to drop the first rent check off on Tues. SO I'm waiting to see what his decision will be before I buy Dozer. I'm not sure the apt will be big enough for all of us + Doze. I know someone could come along and buy him in the meantime, but that is the chance I have to take.

    BTW we are meeting Dozer today for the first time! I'm excited
    I was thinking about you this a.m…and today being the big day!! I'm a little curious, if you had an appt. to meet w/Dozer, why would his owner change the CL ad (which I'm always very leery about, but did read what you wrote about that on a previous post)…?
    My personal opinion is that no-one should buy a bulldog from craigslist w/an intent to breed period, exclamation point! There are so many health related issues with these breeds and finding a good breeder is key to having a healthy/successful bulldog experience…even then, there are no guarantees, but the breeder is a HUGE part of this process…Have you looked into Stacy's credentials? Where she got Dozer? Maybe her post got flagged and that is why it is now down...

    I'm super excited for you, I am also just being slightly protective and hoping you have a giant list of questions to bring w/you today…because once you see that adorable, wrinkle-faced baby…it's probably done, lol...

    AS far as the apt. space, you really don't need a ton of space for this kind of breed…they need very little for exercise; two short walks a day, frequent trips out in the yard…they sleep a lot, they're not crazy active (most of the time, lol, I play this one song and Bass is a firecracker So as long as you have room for a crate, a decent space outside for "bathroom breaks"…you should be fine for space!!

    "Unequivocally the Sweetest"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurie View Post
    I was thinking about you this a.m…and today being the big day!! I'm a little curious, if you had an appt. to meet w/Dozer, why would his owner change the CL ad (which I'm always very leery about, but did read what you wrote about that on a previous post)…?
    My personal opinion is that no-one should buy a bulldog from craigslist w/an intent to breed period, exclamation point! There are so many health related issues with these breeds and finding a good breeder is key to having a healthy/successful bulldog experience…even then, there are no guarantees, but the breeder is a HUGE part of this process…Have you looked into Stacy's credentials? Where she got Dozer? Maybe her post got flagged and that is why it is now down...

    I'm super excited for you, I am also just being slightly protective and hoping you have a giant list of questions to bring w/you today…because once you see that adorable, wrinkle-faced baby…it's probably done, lol...

    As far as the apt. space, you really don't need a ton of space for this kind of breed…they need very little for exercise; two short walks a day, frequent trips out in the yard…they sleep a lot, they're not crazy active (most of the time, lol, I play this one song and Bass is a firecracker So as long as you have room for a crate, a decent space outside for "bathroom breaks"…you should be fine for space!!
    thanks for being protective! that is so sweet Thanks for the upvote for the apt! It's a 2 bedroom. 1100 sq ft. We would be in the master bedroom, my son in the other bedroom. My husband's brother lives with us and he has to sleep on the couch because he snores and it upsets my son (who has William's Syndrome). So that kind of complicates things as far as space. It's not the ideal situation and we could've got a 3 bedroom but the price and location of this apt is ideal, so...

    anyway, Stacy is the breeder, I probably havent been clear about that. I've asked her a lot of questions already, on the phone and through text. She says she doesn't breed her dogs constantly, that she gives them time off between litters. I believe she also said that she only breeds them a couple of times and then they're done. I'm not sure, I'll have to ask again. They are inside dogs, well loved. I have a good feeling from her. And I'll see what vibe I get today. She is there for you pretty much 24/7, to help out when you have ANY questions after purchasing a dog.

    Thanks for thinking of me

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    Sending good vibes your way hopefully it all works out.

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