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    Default This is why we should neuter our dogs if we don't plan to breed...

    I had to work late last night so I woke up at 8:00AM. The dogs were not in their beds so I figured the kids took them out before they went to school (7AM) and they're in the house somewhere. I walk out of my bedroom and see the front door. WIDE. OPEN.

    Bullie and Angus were laying down on the threshold watching people pass by. Gizmo - the bichon - was gone. So, I was on the way to the car to look for my missing dog when I notice a voice message on my phone. Somebody called that they have Gizmo. He was at someone's house a mile away... in a house with an intact female shitzu. The owner of the house did not know that my dog is intact as well so both dogs have been playing together. We were just very lucky that the female is not in heat.

    The only reason Gizmo is intact is because we believe that we can guarantee 100% that Gizmo will not produce unwanted puppies. Well, we were wrong. Gizmo - who has extreme separation anxiety that he would never have thought to go outside the door without me - decided he is going to leave me and his best friend Angus and go roaming. Completely out of character for him. But then, somebody left the door wide open giving Gizmo the option to go out of character.

    Grrrrrrr.........

    I'm not sure yet if my husband will go with neutering. He's thinking hard about it.

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    I'm 1000% in support of spaying and neutering. Sorry but there are way too many unwanted babies out there. Unless the breeder knows what they are doing, has health checks on both Mom & Dad, knows the pedigree, and again, really knows what they are doing, then I say spay & neuter.

    I'm so so so happy Gizmo is ok and that Bullie & Angus were just hanging out at the front door *and* that some crazy person didn't just wonder into your house.

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    Anatess.. I am happy all were ok. I never hesitate to spay and neuter. The world has enough unwanted critters as far as I am concerned. I don't get why there is hesitation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEISGREAT View Post
    Anatess.. I am happy all were ok. I never hesitate to spay and neuter. The world has enough unwanted critters as far as I am concerned. I don't get why there is hesitation.


    instead of I meant


    You know how we think removing a bully's nose rope is unnecessary pain and suffering? That's how my husband thinks of neutering... Yes, the vet has explained to him that it is not HIS nuts that are going to be removed... lol.

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    Oh GOSH, thank goodness someone had him!! I would KILL whoever left that door open!

    But I do agree... less "I am wild beast" hormones, less problems.


    So glad the babies are okay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    You know how we think removing a bully's nose rope is unnecessary pain and suffering? That's how my husband thinks of neutering... Yes, the vet has explained to him that it is not HIS nuts that are going to be removed... lol.
    I am thinking he needs tutoring....

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    Is it more invasive to have then snip (sorry guys) them like they do humans? It seems the other way around .... ????

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    Glad everyone is at home and safe tonight. After you lose a dog to testicular cancer, neutering is no longer a question.
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    This is a very confusing time for me with Gizmo. Very very confusing.

    I've been enjoying a separation anxiety free dog for a few weeks (I have a thread open somewhere here about how Angus is helping Gizmo with his separation anxiety). Then yesterday happened where he decided to roam the neighborhood. And today he is back to his psychotic self. I left the house for one hour this morning - something that Gizmo handled with his crate open when we got Bullie even before Angus started being his companion. I came home to the aftermath of a psychotic incident - Gizmo shaking like a leaf, pee stains all over the doorways of the room, ripped bedding (he digs and digs and digs his bedding when he gets psychotic) and Angus hiding in his crate (he didn't even come out when I walked in). Bullie is just like always - sleeping. I guess Angus got scared of Gizmo's actions.

    Dunno what to make of this. I guess its back to the crate for now. Hopefully Angus can work his magic again soon!

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    Default Re: This is why we should neuter our dogs if we don't plan to breed...

    Quote Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    You know how we think removing a bully's nose rope is unnecessary pain and suffering? That's how my husband thinks of neutering... Yes, the vet has explained to him that it is not HIS nuts that are going to be removed... lol.
    Your husband's belief system is from another time....like the 19th Century!

    DNA and biological imperative are hard task masters. The "best" male dog in the world will go find a female in heat. They cannot help it and to expect anything else is folly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicaroo1000 View Post
    Your husband's belief system is from another time....like the 19th Century!

    DNA and biological imperative are hard task masters. The "best" male dog in the world will go find a female in heat. They cannot help it and to expect anything else is folly.

    My husband and I do not believe that an intact dog will not find a female in heat. That's silly. That's not why we don't neuter. We don't neuter because we believe that we can guarantee 100% that our dogs will not ever be given the opportunity to mount a female dog in heat.... until yesterday. When the door got left mysteriously Wide Open. Yes, nobody has fessed up yet on who did that...

    By the way, just so it's clear. Having an intact dog roaming the neighborhood is not just a neutering issue. Any dog roaming the neighborhood in Florida where the water is right there behind the house points to numerous problems - dog eaten by a gator, dog bitten by a cottonmouth, dog drowning, dog getting hit by a car, dog getting stolen, dog biting someone, dog killing somebody else's pet, dog getting killed by somebody else's pet, dog sent to a kill shelter in some remote town... and so on and so forth.

    Hence, even if our dogs are altered (which Bullie is), we would still require that 100% guarantee that our dog will never be given the opportunity to roam freely or have un-supervised/un-vetted time with somebody else's dog.
    Last edited by anatess; 04-18-2013 at 01:36 PM.

    I got Bullied and loving it!
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