I am not sure I like the tone of some posters, so I won't even give them the satisfaction of a response. This is a forum of support systems for goodhearted bully owners, not a place to come and be judged. If we have a problem with our bullies, or just need a shoulder to lean on, it should be here! That said- lets move forward. @ModernFemme: you are doing all the right things, and I agree with some ofthe others, it is just time and persistance. I see it in Bogey- he gets so into his bone, or playing,and boom, he will lunge or nip, but taking him out of the situation has helped immensely. Look at our skin kids- they are all different and going thru the teenage years was a piece of cake for some, and a nightmare with others, yet they were raised the same way! I think each Bully is unique and it takes longer for some to "catch on" to proper behavior than others. Stay the course with your trainer, and don't let harsh critics deter you from coming here for help. You are a good mama!