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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy-licious View Post
    Here in the UK it is illegal NOT to scoop doggy poop. I get more irritated by the horse poop though and wish that they would carry super sized bags and shovel it up. Nothing worse than cleaning a Bully who thought rolling in Horse Poop would make him smell better :/
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    our dog park provides poop and scoop bags, and has many receptacles to dispose of the poop bags, so there is no reason not to clean up after your dog , but I have seen big piles of dog poop in this park. It's just laziness. Maybe something like this idea would be good for your complex, a station with poop bags, and a receptacle like a metal garbage can where the bags could be disposed of in.
    Interesting you should mention that. This was my first modus operandi! I installed my OWN poopoo bag thing -- hung a plastic roll of doodie bags on a zip tie on the fence at the dog area. THAT STILL DIDN'T DO IT. The owners of our complex added big signs later and now maintain a poop bag dispenser there -- and there's still poo.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaRett View Post
    a security camera around the pet area, is a suggestion, even if its a 'fake one' (Just dont tell anyone its fake' if they THINK they are on camera . . . .
    if that isnt an option, gather up all of the when you know Exactly who it is, and make a 'delivery' at their front door, or on their car, or whereever, with a little note - 'I think you dropped something in the pet area, and I know you didnt want it to be lost'
    You have just described my secret fantasy. I even mentioned this dream to the maintenance guy -- with whom I commiserate. I would LOVE to be the guy who "delivers" the goods! What satisfaction that would be!!! Interestingly, one of the offenders, I'm CERTAIN is the Asian family with the Jack Russell mix, right across from the park. I'm CERTAIN that's who it is. Dang I wish I could catch them at it!!!

    I know I've told this story before --- but we've got some new people. LOL During the year I was unemployed, I spent a great deal of time at our complex's dog area. When you're there that much, you notice things. I also used to pick up the doodie; my highest count was EIGHTEEN PILES one day! Well, there is a REALLY drunk guy who brings his sickly looking Pekinese mix there every single day. He turns the dog loose in the yard thing and then sits in his truck and drinks a can of beer. One day, I'm headed in and he's heading out. I hand him a bright orange doggie doo bag and tell him, "Hey, you are supposed to pick up your dog's **** when it takes a dump in here." He took the bag from me -- shocked that I'd say anything - and stammered, "How the hell do you know it's MY dog?" I quickly replied, pointing to the aging, runny eyed mutt at his feet, "Sick little dog. Sick little dog piles. Easy." He staggered around and got he and his dog into the truck and off they went, muttering under his breath. It felt good; even if that drunken bastard never picked up another pile, I had a fantastic story for the homeowner's meeting anyway. LOLOLOL

    Some weeks later, I ran into him again there and he went out of his way to inform me that he does pick up his dog's piles. I smiled and told him how much I appreciate it and how much nicer the park would be if everyone did "as we were doing".

    I guess I feel a bit better, knowing its just not me and my little part of the world. The February Issue of the HOA newsletter is going to have yet another mention of the importance of dog scooping and not tossing cigarette butts on the ground -- that's littering too. Duh. Here's something I included in a previous newsletter. It's a sign I saw and took a picture off. It reproduced in black and white pretty well. I think it makes a good point.

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    Yeah, I guess some people just don't get the hint, and no matter what signage, or warnings, or whether there are bags and bins provided, there's always going to be the small percentage of dog owners, who are irresponsible, lazy, or just plain ignorant and ignore them. They are the ones who ruin it for the others who do play by the rules, up I guess you'll always have someone like that in every situation. They are the same ones, who toss there trash, even when there are garbage cans nearby, or toss their cigarette butts wherever, or allow there pets to be a nuisance to their neighbours lawns and yards , and these people may annoy us, but we can't really change them, it's just how they are , or it's their personality, frustrating as it is.
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    We had a big problem at our previous house... it was not the people that lived there, it was the people coming onto our street to use an access road to the school/park...... it sucks, but there will always be 'people' that think it is not a big deal to leave it in the street or grass because it is not their house or their street.
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    My apartment complex has doggy stations - with free baggies and a trash can, at every little yard around the complex. Almost everyone has dogs, and pretty much everyone cleans it up because of the convenience! If you don't have them already, maybe suggest it to the neighborhood association? That way no one is ever caught without a baggie

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    I would tackle this in stages as follows:

    1.) Make sure the community by-laws have a provision that anybody caught not picking up after their dog in the community - whether they live in the community or not - is going to be fined. Also add in the by-laws that pet owners release the right to photographs taken in community property for purposes of reporting dog-scooping problem. Notify all community members about these laws.
    2.) Send a reminder notice to everyone in the community about the dog waste problem.
    3.) Install signs (with a reference to the community law) in problem areas. Put a phone number/email address for people to contact if they encounter non-scoopers - with cellphones having cameras nowadays, it's a bit easier to self-police.
    4.) Install a waste station, the cost of which can be included in the community association budget. There are places that will install pet receptacles for something like $20/month/station for 2 years after which you own it. This makes it easier to budget in the association funds.
    5.) If this does not solve the problem - send another notice warning all pet owners that if this problem does not get solved, that you will raise the community association fees by X amount of dollars to hire a pet waste removal service.
    6.) If this still doesn't solve the problem, just go ahead and hire the pet waste removal service folks using association funds.

    Disclaimer: I've never done this before nor know of anyone who does this. I'm just thinking what I would do in the same circumstances.

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    Believe it or not, we just read of a large association here in Florida(not exactly sure where) that is actually doing DNA testing on pet waste, and if your pets is identified, huge fine! I love it!!
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    @anatess - I love how you're thinking on this one! I also love the step by step approach.

    If there were such a budget, wouldn't it be awesome to have a "bounty" on offenders? Take video of someone NOT scooping and get $50 or something. LOL (I would pay that - no kidding - to teach someone a big *** lesson....!)

    I will be going over the community rules first! There is a law in Snohomish County and I've made reference to that law in one of my newsletter reminders. Like anything it's 20% of the people causing 80% of the problem. I'd even go as far as to say 10% / 90%.

    What's the net result of NOT doing this? Also add in the by-laws that pet owners release the right to photographs taken in community property for purposes of reporting dog-scooping problem. Notify all community members about these laws. With the way cell phones are these days, can you get sued by taking a picture of someone breaking the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicaroo1000 View Post
    @anatess - I love how you're thinking on this one! I also love the step by step approach.

    If there were such a budget, wouldn't it be awesome to have a "bounty" on offenders? Take video of someone NOT scooping and get $50 or something. LOL (I would pay that - no kidding - to teach someone a big *** lesson....!)

    I will be going over the community rules first! There is a law in Snohomish County and I've made reference to that law in one of my newsletter reminders. Like anything it's 20% of the people causing 80% of the problem. I'd even go as far as to say 10% / 90%.

    What's the net result of NOT doing this? Also add in the by-laws that pet owners release the right to photographs taken in community property for purposes of reporting dog-scooping problem. Notify all community members about these laws. With the way cell phones are these days, can you get sued by taking a picture of someone breaking the law?
    You can take pictures of anything on public property... hence, celebrities can't really stop paparrazis unless they take pictures of the celebrity in her private place (like those rag-photos of the Princess sunbathing naked) then they can sue. Your community would be considered private property so you have to make it a community law to have rights to photos taken on community grounds ONLY for the purpose of dog scooping problem reporting. Anybody walking in your community or living in your community will be subject to those laws.

    Without this piece of the steps, your poop signs won't have "teeth" because there wouldn't be proof positive of the culprits. Anybody reporting on somebody else would be just a "his word against mine" kind of thing - which could work as a deterrent (which may be enough to solve your problem) but not really for imposing consequences unless you hire cops to catch offenders. This, of course, can be changed to something like video surveillance - in which case, you still have to put it in your community by-laws that video surveillance is available and that the videos can be used to catch culprits.
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    @anatess - I see! Understood. *putting my thinking cap on*

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    We had a problem with other owners when we lived in town. I would see someone walking their dog, who decided that my yard needed a gift, and I would take note as to whether or not the owner had a bag in hand - if not I immeditely ran to the kitchen to get one, walked out and asked them if they "forgot" theirs at home and handed it to them.

    A young man, 13 or so, says, "what am I suppose to do with it when I pick it up?" Which only tells me that he never picked up poo when walking his baby. *Sigh*
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    I live in a subdivision with a HOA and can't stand it when others don't clean up after their dogs. My neighbor has a mutt of some sorts that barks 24/7. They even put her outside at 7:00 on Saturday mornings and guess what it does....it barks and barks and barks and barks. Well it also has a habit of leaving unwanted presents in my yard. Last summer, I was cutting grass in the side yard with the push mower when I see the dog trotting into my yard while the owner is standing next to his house on his cell phone. Well then she trots right on over and by this time I still have the lawn mower going but stationary while I watch. Then the sniffing and circling start. I'm just standing there with the lawn mower looking at the dog and then the owner. Once she stops and starts to haunch over, I tear across my driveway with the lawn mower in front of me, front wheels a good 2 feet off the ground, blade just a spinning, and making a sprint towards "Lucy" (sorry bully owners with bullies named Lucy). That dog tore off like something jumped up and bit her in the tail piece. So by the time I get to where she was about to drop off the browns, the lawn mower is back down on all 4 wheels and I'm yelling at the dog to get back to where it belongs before I call animal control. The owner, having seen it all, comes running to tell me how rude I'm being. Even though my 2/3 of an acre is about 80% wooded, what front and side yard I have is treated year round so that it's nice and green and looks nice. I tell him what's rude is that I pay money that I work for to maintain my yard and some people don't understand that there's a leash law in our county, that it's "ok" to let your dog wherever they feel like and not clean it up, that it'd only take a phone call before he's posting bail at animal control, and that it's no fun having to tip toe around just to cut your grass. He picked up his dog and stormed off. He still refuses to return my waves when I see him outside.


    Another family down the street has a Yorkie and and a cattle dog/Australian Sheppard of some sort that they walk daily. They used to let them do their business anywhere they liked. I would constantly see them use my yard as their own personal facilities. So how did I handle this? Like any self respecting dues paying member of the HOA. I waited until they turned around after walking past my house, shoveled up the , waited for them to walk past my yard on their way home, tossed it out into the street in front of them, and politely told them that they forgot to clean up after fido. The blank expression was classic. Since then, they've used the empty and overgrown/wooded lots in the subdivision for their dogs since they don't want to clean up after them. Granted Ellie uses the empty lots as well, but that's ok according to the by laws.
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