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    So it looks like I might have a dilemma on hand here and not sure if it can be fixed.

    When I bought Cammie the guy showed me the papers of the mom and dad but I didn't get a close look at them or take down any info from them. I know I'm a newbie! So we sign this little hand written contract between us then he tells me that I will receive the temp registration forms in the mail within 30 days. A few days goes by and I ask him if he will send info on the parents ie registration #'s and pics of his papers. He says ok but never send and I never hear from him again. I'm wondering if he ever really had papers or if they were real. They looked professional as the others I've seen.

    I called AKC and gave them all the details and as much info on him as I could but nothing came up but they also said its possible it could be under someone else in his family. Ie parent or sibling.

    This sucks!

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    The litter usually gets registered before the puppies go home. Each puppy gets a number so you can register it when you take him home. I got these papers with the dog. One of mine is akc, the other is bca. Can't you contact the breeder? They both came with their lineage.
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    Its really not important unless you plan to show your dog or breed. Without experience I do not recommend you try either. Its really just bragging rights, although Cammie is certainly one to brag about! She is beautiful.
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    I'm guessing this person you got Cammie from isn't local to you? I'm not sure how all breeders do the paperwork but from my experience you get a copy of your contract and your registration papers when you pick up your puppy ... l'm not positive but maybe @Davidh @Sherry or @desertskybulldogs can help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc03grunt View Post
    So it looks like I might have a dilemma on hand here and not sure if it can be fixed.

    When I bought Cammie the guy showed me the papers of the mom and dad but I didn't get a close look at them or take down any info from them. I know I'm a newbie! So we sign this little hand written contract between us then he tells me that I will receive the temp registration forms in the mail within 30 days. A few days goes by and I ask him if he will send info on the parents ie registration #'s and pics of his papers. He says ok but never send and I never hear from him again. I'm wondering if he ever really had papers or if they were real. They looked professional as the others I've seen.

    I called AKC and gave them all the details and as much info on him as I could but nothing came up but they also said its possible it could be under someone else in his family. Ie parent or sibling.

    This sucks!
    You're in Florida. Is the breeder? If he is, there's a Pet Lemon Law here. Some other states have them too. Message me if you need more info and I'll send you a link to it. If he's in Florida, he should have given you a copy of that too. At any rate, give him his 30 days. He may have been slow in filing the paperwork and waiting on it to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linwhite View Post
    You're in Florida. Is the breeder? If he is, there's a Pet Lemon Law here. Some other states have them too. Message me if you need more info and I'll send you a link to it. If he's in Florida, he should have given you a copy of that too. At any rate, give him his 30 days. He may have been slow in filing the paperwork and waiting on it to show up.
    Awesome thanks. I'll look into that link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luseaann View Post
    Its really not important unless you plan to show your dog or breed. Without experience I do not recommend you try either. Its really just bragging rights, although Cammie is certainly one to brag about! She is beautiful.
    I know it's not that big of a deal but having her lineage would be something to be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc03grunt View Post
    Awesome thanks. I'll look into that link.
    Florida Statutes Section 828.29. It doesn't specifically cover your situation but sometimes mentioning it puts the fear of the Department of Agriculture into a breeder. Again, it's only good if the breeder is in state.

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    I believe that if he or she says you have papers on your puppy then they should stand by it. Maybe they first needed to send in sire and dam papers before registering the litter. Some people forget or believe they have time still and since he did show you some type of paper that looked professional it could have been the parents papers showing akc on them just not registered through akc yet to him which would mean that he couldn't register the litter yet if at that point he still had not taken the steps in registering the dam and sire to his name. So it could just be that he finally registered the parents and now once he gets the akc papers on them back will then register the litter. I could be completely wrong on this to but it is just a thought.

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    It took a while for me to get Hermans. The breeder wanted to do his registration which was nice of her - so after months of bothering her because I wanted it for his 2012 scrapbook (LOL), she finally did it. She was waiting to hear back from owners of his litter mates. So I never received anything until I got his actual registration since the breeder took care of registering him for me.

    However with other dogs, I received a form to fill out and send with payment to AKC to register myself as the owner. Now, if I remember correctly, I got those forms along with the puppies. Mailed them in with payment and got their registrations.

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    My breeder and myself register the litter when the puppies are 4 weeks old, that way each pup already has the reg.# and you the buyer have a year to register in your name. If you don't, the breeder still has the AKC reg under themselves. Which is no big deal. I like to have lots of professional paper work copies and signatures. It protects you the buyer. Also a guarantee and paper work from the vet. It makes for a very good relationship between buyer and seller. this is just how me and my breeder have worked in the past and will in the future.
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    He sounds like a puppy mill to me. We have a contract, and also a health guarantee signed by our vet, plus we give them the AKC papers and show them how to fill them out and what they need to do to register their pup. Plus we are available anytime to answer questions they may have about our pups. We want to stay in contact with our pup parents to keep up with their new pup and see them grow into beautiful bullies, plus love to get pics of them as they grow. Most reputable breeders will do the same thing.
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