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    Besides spoiling my 17 week old bullie baby, Bridget, I am raising 3 boys. My 7 year old, H, came home from school a couple days ago flipping out over something bad happening to Bridget. He was absolutely inconsolable. (I have to admit he is my drama queen) ... what I finally got out of him was that some neighborhood boy convinced H that bulldogs were a vicious breed and that one day our dog would have to be put down when she hurts somebody. Needless to say, I've been ready to explode ever since.

    H and I talked at length about how this was not true. Of course, he came home yesterday upset again. Like any other kid who has been wronged, he confronted said child that his information was untrue. Well the child countered that bullies could kill small children and so would our Bridget when she is full grown.

    So before I completely lose it over the stupidity of others, does anybody have any advice on how to approach resolving this and reassuring my little guy? He is heartbroken.

    Thank you! -Jane (Bridget's mom)

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    I wish I could help you out on that! I know how you feel! The same thing happened to me a week ago.. although it was not with kids, but GROWN adults! My boyfriend came home from work saying a co-worker told him that bulldogs are vicious and he's seen one "snarl" at a kid before. So he thinks they should be put down. That upset me to hear because I have never met a bulldog that has been vicious to small children. My sister just had a newborn and Tank is very gentle with him. Our neighbors have grandchildren that come over and he LOVES them! So I know what you mean by being upset about that. It angers me that people can just assume a dog is a certain way when they have never interacted with the breed or owned one. I hope this kid that's telling your son this gets a little more educated on the breed by his parents!
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    Sounds like the other kid is confusing english bull with pitt bull not that they are nothing short of complete sweethearts unless they are taught otherwise. Perhaps try countering with that, ignorance is so unfortunate.

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    I'm thinking the kid might have the bully confused with pit bulls? I know they have a bad reputation. I honestly am afraid around them (and so are others) not because of the dog, but because I don't trust the owners. We had one in puppy kindergarten (Jackson) who was the sweetest dog, but he attacked a poodle in the class - and the owner said "arrgh, he's just a puppy" and got annoyed when the instructor told him to keep his dog away from the others.

    So maybe one way to approach it is to talk to your son (not the other kid) and tell him that it's the owner's responsibility to make sure their dogs are good doggies. And it's the owners responsibility to teach their dogs to do tricks and behave well in addition to taking care of them and protecting them. Also tell him that some doggie owners don't do this and that is why they have naughty dogs. Then give your little boy the assignment to teach Bridget some tricks (like No, down, sit, etc) and/or let him attend puppy class with the dog.

    I guess I'm saying instead of defending Bridget and the bulldog breed, give H some ownership for Bridget's behavior. That will empower him when other naughty kids tell him ridiculousness.

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    Also how often are EBD's used as therapy dogs in children's hospitals and terminal facilities. When we were in puppy school the instructor was trying so hard for us to get Bacon certified as a therapy dog, we just don't have the time for all the classes.

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    I agree with @elearn! Tell your son that it's the owner's responsibility to raise a caring and balanced bully. Maybe even show him pictures and videos on youtube of older bullies who adore their skin-siblings, especially the ones with babies and toddlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elearn View Post
    I'm thinking the kid might have the bully confused with pit bulls? I know they have a bad reputation. I honestly am afraid around them (and so are others) not because of the dog, but because I don't trust the owners. We had one in puppy kindergarten (Jackson) who was the sweetest dog, but he attacked a poodle in the class - and the owner said "arrgh, he's just a puppy" and got annoyed when the instructor told him to keep his dog away from the others.

    So maybe one way to approach it is to talk to your son (not the other kid) and tell him that it's the owner's responsibility to make sure their dogs are good doggies. And it's the owners responsibility to teach their dogs to do tricks and behave well in addition to taking care of them and protecting them. Also tell him that some doggie owners don't do this and that is why they have naughty dogs. Then give your little boy the assignment to teach Bridget some tricks (like No, down, sit, etc) and/or let him attend puppy class with the dog.

    I guess I'm saying instead of defending Bridget and the bulldog breed, give H some ownership for Bridget's behavior. That will empower him when other naughty kids tell him ridiculousness.

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    Thanks for all the thoughts and ideas. I definitely needed some perspective. It is hard to look at things objectively when you are overwhelmed with anger and frustration ... in my case both for my little boy and for our dog. So thank you for pacifying this mama bear.

    I did speak with my H some about a dog's temperament being a product of his environment and that Bridget would behave because we show her and teach her, just like mommy and daddy do with him. It would probably be really empowering for him to go to school with her though. I did take our yellow lab to school several years ago and had a great experience, but my boys were too little to understand. Now it's a different story. They probably should be involved.

    I don't think it would be productive to speak to the child, but I think I may say something to the other child's mother?

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    I sometimes take Amber to school to pick up Kristana and most children have never seen an English Bulldog so the children don't know how to react. EBD is not a common breed that most children have been fortunate enough to be exposed to so maybe the exposure would be a good idea. The children love Amber and have many questions about her and Kristana beams with the opportunity to show off her bully. It makes them both feel special. Good Luck.

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    Speak to his teacher, explain the situation and ask if you could bring him to show and tell. Kind of a passive way to help your son and his classmates. As much as I would lose my poo and confront the boy's mom, I have also realized crappy kids are raised by crappy parents (huh, kinda like dogs) and would probably be pointless and more apt to have the other kid become even more asshat-ish (oh yeah, I create my own words) to your son.
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    Having been the owner of both an English Bulldog and a 7 year old boy(s)... I freely give my advice that will solve your problem... Something no 7 year old boy will argue with... and in fact, will probably make him want an EB for the rest of his life (being a man this also makes me want to go home and hug my EB)..

    The solution to your problem.....




    Mascot of the U.S Marine Corps... BAM! problem solved.



    What dog would any american red-blooded-seven-year-old-boy want more?



    And if that other kid has a problem with that.... He can talk to these guys!




    Your welcome



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    I guess you could also read to him the AKC description of Bulldogs..

    The disposition should be equable and kind, resolute and courageous (not vicious or aggressive), and demeanor should be pacific and dignified. These attributes should be countenanced by the expression and behavior.
    .. But the Marine idea is your slam-dunk solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLost View Post
    Having been the owner of both an English Bulldog and a 7 year old boy(s)... I freely give my advice that will solve your problem... Something no 7 year old boy will argue with... and in fact, will probably make him want an EB for the rest of his life (being a man this also makes me want to go home and hug my EB)..

    The solution to your problem.....




    Mascot of the U.S Marine Corps... BAM! problem solved.



    What dog would any american red-blooded-seven-year-old-boy want more?



    And if that other kid has a problem with that.... He can talk to these guys!




    Your welcome



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    I guess you could also read to him the AKC description of Bulldogs..



    .. But the Marine idea is your slam-dunk solution.
    Excellent!!!


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